Re: This may come back to haunt Kerry

COL. WILLIAM CAMPENNI (retired), eh?

Well, let's start with some of the basics...

In the Air Guard during the Vietnam War, you were always subject to call-up, as many Air National Guardsmen are finding out today. If the 111th FIS and Lt. Bush did not go to Vietnam, blame President Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, not lowly Lt. Bush. They deliberately avoided use of the Guard and Reserves for domestic political calculations, knowing that a draftee only stirred up the concerns of one family, while a call-up got a whole community's attention.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Nixon President back in 1972?

While most of America was sleeping and Mr. Kerry was playing antiwar games with Hanoi Jane Fonda, we were answering 3 a.m. scrambles for who knows what inbound threat over the Canadian subarctic, the cold North Atlantic and the shark-filled Gulf of Mexico.

True, but then again, Kerry was dancing with Hanoi Jane back in 1970...He had already gotten 3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star...so he had already done his 3 a.m. scrambles and had already gotten shot at (and shot).

But, let's look at ol' WILLIAM CAMPENNI.

This time was different, Bill Campenni said.

[...]

One of those on-guard outfits was the Pennsylvania Air National Guard's 146th Fighter Squadron, an air defense unit based at Pittsburgh International Airport.

Just out of graduate school, Campenni was a 32-year-old captain in the 146th, flying the F-102 Delta Dagger, the world's first supersonic all-weather jet interceptor, and "sitting alert" on Nov. 11, 1972.

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Wait a minute - just out of graduate school? 1972? But he said they were squadron mates from 1970 to 1971...

But the kicker? The REAL kicker? Read that [link|http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Common%2FMGArticle%2FPrintVersion&c=MGArticle&cid=1031772380834&image=timesdispatch80x60.gif&oasDN=timesdispatch.com&oasPN=%21news| article ] again.

On that dreary day in 1972, a military controller was ordering the Air National Guard captain to get ready to destroy a hijacked DC-9 airliner filled with Americans.
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Three men with pistols and hand grenades had commandeered Southern Airways Flight 49 over Alabama on Nov. 10, 1972.

During a 29-hour ordeal that ended in Havana, the hijackers threatened to crash the jetliner into the nuclear facilities at Oak Ridge, Tenn., or into President Richard Nixon's home, nicknamed the "Southern White House," near Key Biscayne, Fla.

"They kind of told us we were going after an airliner: 'Be prepared for any eventuality,'" Campenni said.

Recent news stories detailing how U.S. fighter pilots are training for the grim possibility of shooting down hijacked civilian airliners did not shock Campenni, a 63-year-old retired Virginia Air National Guard colonel living in Herndon.

If the armed forces have no alternative, the commander of the U.S. Northern Command has said, the military is ready to destroy a civilian plane to stop a Sept. 11-style attack.

The airmen confronted that scenario with Southern Flight 49.

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The National Guard cited privacy as the reason for blacking out answers. The full, unmarked records have never been released. Bartlett did not respond Wednesday to a request to release the records with nothing blacked out, which Bush could do as the subject of the records.

Burkett says that the state Guard commander, Maj. Gen. Daniel James III, discussed "cleansing" Bush's military files of embarrassing or incriminating documents in the summer of 1997. At the time, Burkett was a lieutenant colonel and a chief adviser to James. He says he was just outside James' open office door when his boss discussed the records on a speakerphone with Joe Allbaugh, who was then Gov. Bush's chief of staff.

Post #141,197 by qstephens 2/11/04 4:17:30 PM Reply	Re: This may come back to haunt Kerry [link\|http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040210-082910-8424r.htm\|http://www.washtimes...-082910-8424r.htm] qts
Post #141,302 by Simon_Jester 2/11/04 10:44:14 PM Reply	Actually it may come back to haunt Bush..(Kicker at the end) COL. WILLIAM CAMPENNI (retired), eh? Well, let's start with some of the basics... In the Air Guard during the Vietnam War, you were always subject to call-up, as many Air National Guardsmen are finding out today. If the 111th FIS and Lt. Bush did not go to Vietnam, blame President Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, not lowly Lt. Bush. They deliberately avoided use of the Guard and Reserves for domestic political calculations, knowing that a draftee only stirred up the concerns of one family, while a call-up got a whole community's attention. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Nixon President back in 1972? While most of America was sleeping and Mr. Kerry was playing antiwar games with Hanoi Jane Fonda, we were answering 3 a.m. scrambles for who knows what inbound threat over the Canadian subarctic, the cold North Atlantic and the shark-filled Gulf of Mexico. True, but then again, Kerry was dancing with Hanoi Jane back in 1970...He had already gotten 3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star...so he had already done his 3 a.m. scrambles and had already gotten shot at (and shot). But, let's look at ol' WILLIAM CAMPENNI. This time was different, Bill Campenni said. [...] One of those on-guard outfits was the Pennsylvania Air National Guard's 146th Fighter Squadron, an air defense unit based at Pittsburgh International Airport. Just out of graduate school, Campenni was a 32-year-old captain in the 146th, flying the F-102 Delta Dagger, the world's first supersonic all-weather jet interceptor, and "sitting alert" on Nov. 11, 1972. [link\|http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Common%2FMGArticle%2FPrintVersion&c=MGArticle&cid=1031772380834&image=timesdispatch80x60.gif&oasDN=timesdispatch.com&oasPN=%21news\| Source ] Wait a minute - just out of graduate school? 1972? But he said they were squadron mates from 1970 to 1971... But the kicker? The REAL kicker? Read that [link\|http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Common%2FMGArticle%2FPrintVersion&c=MGArticle&cid=1031772380834&image=timesdispatch80x60.gif&oasDN=timesdispatch.com&oasPN=%21news\| article ] again. On that dreary day in 1972, a military controller was ordering the Air National Guard captain to get ready to destroy a hijacked DC-9 airliner filled with Americans. \t Three men with pistols and hand grenades had commandeered Southern Airways Flight 49 over Alabama on Nov. 10, 1972. During a 29-hour ordeal that ended in Havana, the hijackers threatened to crash the jetliner into the nuclear facilities at Oak Ridge, Tenn., or into President Richard Nixon's home, nicknamed the "Southern White House," near Key Biscayne, Fla. "They kind of told us we were going after an airliner: 'Be prepared for any eventuality,'" Campenni said. Recent news stories detailing how U.S. fighter pilots are training for the grim possibility of shooting down hijacked civilian airliners did not shock Campenni, a 63-year-old retired Virginia Air National Guard colonel living in Herndon. If the armed forces have no alternative, the commander of the U.S. Northern Command has said, the military is ready to destroy a civilian plane to stop a Sept. 11-style attack. The airmen confronted that scenario with Southern Flight 49.
Post #141,305 by deSitter 2/11/04 11:31:25 PM Reply	Re: Actually it may come back to haunt Bush.. The photo with Kerry in the background and Jane up front (damn she was sexy) was made years before she dropped in on Hanoi. Kerry was never seen with her after she entered the "evil commie whore" phase. -drl
Post #141,311 by admin 2/11/04 11:57:56 PM Reply	Other stuff [link\|http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-02-11-bush-guard-usat_x.htm\|http://www.usatoday....-guard-usat_x.htm] The National Guard cited privacy as the reason for blacking out answers. The full, unmarked records have never been released. Bartlett did not respond Wednesday to a request to release the records with nothing blacked out, which Bush could do as the subject of the records. Burkett says that the state Guard commander, Maj. Gen. Daniel James III, discussed "cleansing" Bush's military files of embarrassing or incriminating documents in the summer of 1997. At the time, Burkett was a lieutenant colonel and a chief adviser to James. He says he was just outside James' open office door when his boss discussed the records on a speakerphone with Joe Allbaugh, who was then Gov. Bush's chief of staff. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #141,314 by deSitter 2/12/04 12:04:09 AM Reply	Arrested for theft?? Our pResident is goddamn lowlife thief? Have your apartment ransacked and tell me how you feel about thieves from that day on. -drl

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