Let me get this straight...

Post #139,571 by Nightowl 2/3/04 12:52:47 PM Reply	Let me get this straight... You and Rcareaga are saying that people think they should vote for Bush just because he's a Christian? That's nuts! Aren't any of the Democratic nominees Christian? And even if they weren't, it sounds to me like the only reason these people are supporting Bush is the abortion issue? What other religious things is Bush trying to implement? I must've missed this in all the hoo hah, cause all I remember about his platform is mostly foreign policy and backing his reasons for going to war. Surely the Christians don't all think he was right to invade Iraq, do they? Nightowl >8# "To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer
Post #139,573 by hnick 2/3/04 1:17:36 PM Reply	As straight as you like I was suggesting that a subset of Christians are supporting Bush because he's as twisted as they are. This was not a blanket statement that all Christians support Bush. There are certainly more elements involved than the abortion rights issue as well. He's big on family, as long as the family has sex the same way he does; otherwise disenfranchise the lot of those disgusting things pretending to be citizens. He's also into faith-based initiatives. He appointed Ashcroft to guard the morals and behavior of the populace, no matter what they believe. Ashcroft is another fundi whack job. It may just be that fundi xians just consider him one of their own and that he will advance all their causes and beliefs. I never claimed that they were particularly bright. I do not and sincerely hope never to, speak for Christians as a group, particularly what they think. You'd have to ask the Christians.
Post #139,579 by Nightowl 2/3/04 1:28:07 PM Reply	Ah okay, thanks I didn't mean to imply "you" were speaking for all Christians, I just wondered what was meant by your statement in Flame, so I wanted to know what essentially, you had heard that was said about them. I was unaware of some of the things you mentioned about Bush and moral values, thanks for clearing that up. Just curious, how is Ashcroft supposed to "guard" our values? That seems to be too big a job for one person. And what is he doing to carry out this task, do you know? Nightowl >8# "To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer
Post #139,583 by jbrabeck 2/3/04 1:41:56 PM Reply	Just that fact that his christianity get mentioned is a problem. Remember 1960? Vote for Kennedy, he's Catholic.... When a voter, who is otherwise uninformed, is making their voting decision, it could (and most likely will) come down to "Christian == good" and the vote will go to the "christian". Those who are informed will investigate the issues and vote ABB (anyone But Bush). "All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever." 1 Peter 1:24-25
Post #139,587 by Nightowl 2/3/04 1:44:50 PM Reply	Exactly what I'm doing Those who are informed will investigate the issues and vote ABB (anyone But Bush). Trying to investigate the issues, so I can make a smarter decision. And trust me, it will NOT be Bush. Nightowl >8# "To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer
Post #139,588 by altmann 2/3/04 1:47:22 PM Reply	Re: Ashcroft Well, he's quite the expert regarding breasts and cover-ups. Just the man for the current administration and the issues that face us today. -- Chris Altmann
Post #139,598 by hnick 2/3/04 1:55:26 PM Reply	Ashcroft... Is the guiding authority of the Justice Department. He has considerable lattitude in selecting what gets enforced and what does not. Considering that he has a considerable reputation as a holy roller, that could be unpleasant for someone who does not share his agenda. He can make life difficult for those who don't share his divinely proclaimed values. He doesn't have to do it personally. He has the whole Justice Dept. working for him.

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