Bullshit! (Or should I say, "Ox-crap!"?) You're *gibbering*.

Post #13,941 by CRConrad 10/18/01 8:53:47 AM Reply	Bullshit! (Or should I say, "Ox-crap!"?) You're gibbering. The Ox moos: [Mussolini, DeGaul Ceasar the Norse] All thought of the Med lake as part of theirs. So? You can own two things and that doesn't make them part of each other. Or is your car part of your house, just because you happen to own them both? The Norse always traded with Cadiz and Tripoli. And America (all countries, on both halves of the continent) trades with Japan and China. Does that make Japan and China parts of America, or the USA (etc) part of Asia? Now is Estonia European or Slavic? Both, of course. Well, only about half-Slavic, since the Estonians aren't a Slavic people, but the Russians (who make up about half the population) are. I think Europe proper is defined by tribal groups not theology or geography. That's pretty fucking goddamn stupid of you. But OK, I'll play along a little -- just as much as it amuses me to. (Because the amusement value is about all this silly notion is good for.) This would let out Poland, No, why? The Poles are a European people, just like many other (most West-) Slavic peoples. (Notably, the Czechs and Slovaks.) anything east of Danzig, Nope. East of Italy Absolutely not -- the South Slavic (in South-slavic [the language], that's "Yugo-slav"...) peoples are just as European as their West-Slavic brethren further to the north. South of the Rock of Gibraltar Of course. For one thing, there's a sea immediately south of the Rock, and south of that is another continent. And for another, in your terms, the Bedouins never were a European "tribe". and only the parts of Austria that are east of the danube. No, Eastern Europe is still Europe. Finland barely makes it as well as Iceland in the Northern Areas. Of course they "make it" -- no "barely" about it. Better? Nope. Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything About Europe
Post #13,944 by boxley 10/18/01 8:59:09 AM Reply	Poles are European? By linguistic group? I think not, niether are Estonioans. The Nordic languages are euro, finnish is not, only included because of your civilizing presence. Hungary is asian as well as Balkans. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #13,952 by CRConrad 10/18/01 9:48:59 AM Reply	Huh?!? But "European" ISN'T a linguistic grouping!!! Look it up -- you got your Germanic languages, your Slavic languages, your Romance languages... But no "Euroic" linguistic group. Oh, you mean your good ol' "Indo-European" super-group? Well, for one thing, that's largely irrelevant, since it has more to do with really, really ancient lingo-history than with any even remotely living cultural memory: Fucking sanskrit belongs to it -- are you going to say _India_ is part of Europe, too?!? (Actually, I thought you were going to, already -- on the grounds that it once "belonged to" the Brits... Do you see now, how stupid that argument was?) And for another, if you insist on going with it, then yes, the Poles are Europeans: Just like the Romance and Germanic languages, the Slavic languages are a part of the Indo-European language family. And the Balkans, with the possible exception of Albania (I think their language is Ur-European, i.e, pre-dating the "Indo-European" languages on the continent (kind of like Basque), but I'm not sure) are populated by Slavic-speakers, not "Asians". Oh, BTW, it seems you're lumping the Estonians in with the Poles, as Slavs / Slavic-speakers, right...? (You weren't explicit, but judging from your sentence structure.) If so, that's wrong -- Eesti is a Fenno-Ugric language, like Finnish and Hungarian. And no, that doesn't make them "Asian" either: The western branches of the Fenno-Ugric language family have been European languages -- by virtue of being spoken in Europe -- for millennia. Look, why can't you just accept the (to me, blindingly obvious) fact that you don't know shit about this all, and take my word for it when I tell you that I do? Otherwise, you'll just come off like a half-mad neolithic medicine man on speed, claiming to be "explaining" nuclear physics to... say, a junior high school physics teacher. Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #13,981 by boxley 10/18/01 1:25:51 PM Reply	How many root words in the English language can be traced to Fenno-Ugric, Slavic, Maygar. None or damn few. Because they are asian. If they were european they would have integrated like the rest of the mutts and shown up in the polyglot called english. They didnt spend enough time in to qualify. Now where is that physics teacher that needs an explaination? thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #14,037 by a6l6e6x 10/18/01 5:14:56 PM Reply	Try these. English -- Slavic (for some values of Slavic) sister --- "sestra" brother -- "brat" mother --- "mata" milk ----- "moloko" water ---- "woda" Not identical, but clearly related (no pun intended). As CRC says, Indo-European roots. Alex Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Post #14,093 by boxley 10/18/01 11:41:25 PM Reply	not valid germanic influence see British love for unflavored grain alchohol -10. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #14,136 by CRConrad 10/19/01 4:37:37 AM Reply	Stop being such an utter fuckwit. You're just plain WRONG!!!

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