Post #138,087
1/27/04 3:55:54 AM
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California to ban smoking in prisons
[link|http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=4212524§ion=news|Reuters] The Democrat-dominated assembly passed a measure by a vote of 64 to 4 that would amend the state's penal code to bar tobacco products from prisons and youth correctional facilities. Violators are subject to a $200 fine for a first-time violation and $1,000 for a third offense. I don't know if this is a good idea or not. On the one hand, the medical savings could be substantial. But the corruption and control problems that result from keeping them out might offset it. Jay
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Post #138,090
1/27/04 4:04:23 AM
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Isn't that like banning money?
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Chris Altmann
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Post #138,100
1/27/04 9:22:01 AM
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Not to mention the riots
Banning smoking in prisons has been tried before. It's a bad idea.
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Post #138,127
1/27/04 12:30:54 PM
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Hillsborough county Jails are smoke free
so are many other county holes.
thanx,
bill
same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned,
Gabriel Dupre
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Post #138,129
1/27/04 1:03:23 PM
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Fulton County GA smoke free
I know this for a fact. Err, umm. My friend told me.
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Post #138,112
1/27/04 10:42:05 AM
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And what about prisoners who don't pay the fine?
What are you going to do, send them to jail?
Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #138,180
1/27/04 5:27:33 PM
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No dessert
"I believe that many of the systems we build today in Java would be better built in Smalltalk and Gemstone."
-- Martin Fowler, JAOO 2003
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Post #138,193
1/27/04 7:01:33 PM
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No condoms..
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Post #138,198
1/27/04 7:20:09 PM
1/27/04 7:21:10 PM
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Re: California to ban smoking in prisons
Why don't we lock them in 8x8x8 rooms with luminescent white walls, floor, and ceiling, of exactly the same brightness. They will never have darkness, never have company, never have anything to hear or read or see, a cup of sugar water a day spiked with amphetamine so they never sleep. The seams of the door and subsistence slot will be so perfectly made that even that will be invisible. A featureless, soundless, empty world, with sound absorbing walls, so they can't even hear their own screams.
Let them shit and piss on the floor and live in it for a week at a time - something at least to bide the time, making snowmen from feces.
Let the shadows of this insane society fall only on them - and then sing songs for the death of children.
-drl
Edited by deSitter
Jan. 27, 2004, 07:21:10 PM EST
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Post #138,308
1/28/04 11:43:53 AM
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in a white room
OK to the 8x8x8 glowing sensory sink if you throw in a pack of smokes each day: I daresay there'd be takers if the rest of the prison is nicotine-free.
co—(hack! cough!)—cordially,
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #138,330
1/28/04 12:54:04 PM
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with black curtains
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Post #138,331
1/28/04 12:54:20 PM
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in the station
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Post #138,411
1/28/04 6:53:20 PM
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I Know.. whatcha Mean
(something which should be 'said' only rarely - since it's so often Way wide)
You are obliquely referring to the Ashcroftian/marlowesque mindset of simply,Plain Fucking Meanness to all *creatures (yes, animals generally & specifically are also lumped into this sentiment - by such ones) -- all creatures who don't see 'the world' Eggzackly As Do I (and Jesus... Who Tells Me every day How Exactly-Like-Him I Am Becoming cha cha cha)
And no 'words' can shake Their Faith in Solipsism, for They Possess Objective Moralness cha and cha.
moi.
* but Only if:
A) they are lots smaller than I - or I have a gun and they Don't.
B) they are Under My Official Control and, nobody important Is Watching.
C) they are animals unable to communicate, defend selves or.. express Cosmic Contempt for a deranged creature.. to any effect.
D) (seems to work in Offices too, from what many have reported - just usually not directly lethal - financial WMDs: Our forte. The Breakfast of $Coward$.)
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