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Post #137,072 by boxley 1/22/04 9:49:36 AM Reply	Abe Lincoln same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned, Gabriel Dupre questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #137,073 by mmoffitt 1/22/04 9:51:37 AM Reply	And the lie would be????? bcnu, Mikem I don't do third world languages. So no, I don't do Java.
Post #137,077 by deSitter 1/22/04 10:13:25 AM Reply	Re: And the lie would be????? That he would not impose desegregation of society or the abolition of slavery on the South - the idea that the overall goal was always the end of slavery, even though this was not the explicitly stated reason. The Yankee creation myth holds that the Emancipation Proclaimation was conceived by Lincoln as a means of transforming the war into a moral crusade after the fact. -drl
Post #137,078 by boxley 1/22/04 10:14:49 AM Reply	that the South was not entitled to secede same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned, Gabriel Dupre questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #137,154 by mmoffitt 1/22/04 2:29:08 PM Reply	That's not what I was ever taught. Of course, born in North Carolina and raised in Southern California, my experience may be different from most. I was taught in grade school (and later in college) that the only stated mission was the preservation of the Union - at any and all costs. bcnu, Mikem I don't do third world languages. So no, I don't do Java.
Post #137,163 by deSitter 1/22/04 2:39:08 PM Reply	Re: That's not what I was ever taught. Yes, and he just happened to wait for the first decisive Yankee strategic victory and for the blockade to sink in to announce the EP (after Antietam, late 1862). However it is known that he had been making drafts for some time. -drl

The case for lying (aka State of the Union Address). - (mmoffitt) - (72) - Jan. 21, 2004, 08:51:59 AM EST

Bring it on... - (danreck) - (71) - Jan. 21, 2004, 10:09:44 AM EST

Cheney an intellectual? - (mmoffitt) - (66) - Jan. 21, 2004, 10:22:01 AM EST

Thank you for proving my point... - (danreck) - (61) - Jan. 21, 2004, 12:07:34 PM EST

Here's a few clues for you. - (mmoffitt) - (60) - Jan. 21, 2004, 01:00:39 PM EST

Back atcha, Mikey... - (danreck) - (59) - Jan. 21, 2004, 01:21:06 PM EST

Litmus test question: - (jb4) - (8) - Jan. 21, 2004, 01:50:11 PM EST

Since that subject was brought up in the bowels - (boxley) - (7) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:03:39 PM EST

These people weren't taking flying lessons in '97 - (jb4) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:05:19 PM EST

Talking out your ass again - (Silverlock) - (5) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:06:19 PM EST

the question was whose fault was it bush/clinton - (boxley) - (4) - Jan. 21, 2004, 03:51:13 PM EST

If that's how you want to spin it. - (Silverlock) - Jan. 21, 2004, 05:03:42 PM EST

Reading is a skill... - (jb4) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2004, 05:35:12 PM EST

I read it and discarded the "Litmus" test - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2004, 06:43:04 PM EST

Such an easy question; such incredible spin - (jb4) - Jan. 22, 2004, 09:38:21 AM EST

Yo, read your own links closer. - (mmoffitt) - (49) - Jan. 21, 2004, 01:59:31 PM EST

Re: Yo, read your own links closer. - (admin) - (14) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:06:01 PM EST

Okay, - (mmoffitt) - (13) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:07:14 PM EST

Not AFAIK - (admin) - (12) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:08:36 PM EST

I guess it depends on your definition of "was" ;-) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (11) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:08:58 PM EST

No. - (admin) - (10) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:10:34 PM EST

Yes. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:13:31 PM EST

No - (drewk) - (4) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:16:25 PM EST

Look a couple up - I said "was" - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:19:03 PM EST

Not exactly - (drewk) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:58:04 PM EST

Mea Culpa - should have been "former Rhodes scholar" - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 21, 2004, 03:27:51 PM EST

Much ado about straw- Colossus of Rhodesism - (Ashton) - Jan. 22, 2004, 06:51:17 AM EST

Yep, you're right. - (admin) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:25:55 PM EST

Wouldn't asking Rhodes be the appropriate place - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:27:12 PM EST

Huh? <sarcasm> - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2004, 03:25:59 PM EST

Chuckle - (Simon_Jester) - Jan. 22, 2004, 09:31:08 AM EST

So what? - (deSitter) - (33) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:56:26 PM EST

So what? Indeed. - (mmoffitt) - (32) - Jan. 21, 2004, 03:34:56 PM EST

Right. - (bepatient) - (31) - Jan. 21, 2004, 04:27:41 PM EST

One misrepresentation - (jake123) - (30) - Jan. 21, 2004, 04:39:58 PM EST

Doesn't matter... - (Simon_Jester) - (29) - Jan. 21, 2004, 09:47:23 PM EST

This was typical American Statesmanship - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2004, 10:11:04 PM EST

Certainly, and both sides have been doing it for decades. -NT - (Simon_Jester) - Jan. 22, 2004, 09:29:35 AM EST

Riddle me this. - (mmoffitt) - (22) - Jan. 22, 2004, 09:39:28 AM EST

Abe Lincoln -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Jan. 22, 2004, 09:49:36 AM EST

And the lie would be????? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Jan. 22, 2004, 09:51:37 AM EST

Re: And the lie would be????? - (deSitter) - (3) - Jan. 22, 2004, 10:13:25 AM EST

that the South was not entitled to secede -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 22, 2004, 10:14:49 AM EST

That's not what I was ever taught. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2004, 02:29:08 PM EST

Re: That's not what I was ever taught. - (deSitter) - Jan. 22, 2004, 02:39:08 PM EST

Remember the Maine? - (Simon_Jester) - (15) - Jan. 22, 2004, 11:48:15 AM EST

A few Nits. (Aside to Box) - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Jan. 22, 2004, 11:56:25 AM EST

Alexander Hamilton -NT - (boxley) - (6) - Jan. 22, 2004, 02:00:40 PM EST

still waiting - (boxley) - (5) - Jan. 22, 2004, 10:13:10 PM EST

Imminent domain dude ;-) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Jan. 23, 2004, 09:25:26 AM EST

any minute domain? or did you mean eminent? -NT - (deSitter) - (3) - Jan. 23, 2004, 09:37:06 AM EST

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 23, 2004, 10:08:42 AM EST

Eminem domain -NT - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2004, 10:25:19 AM EST

minimum dolman (who really started hostilities) - (boxley) - Jan. 23, 2004, 10:39:44 AM EST

How 'bout Vera Cruz? -NT - (deSitter) - Jan. 22, 2004, 02:39:44 PM EST

"See no evil" before Pearl? -NT - (deSitter) - (5) - Jan. 22, 2004, 02:40:26 PM EST

Again - Not Pre-Emptive War. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Jan. 22, 2004, 04:42:47 PM EST

Such a simple, clear notion - (Ashton) - Jan. 23, 2004, 05:38:23 AM EST

Re: Again - Not Pre-Emptive War. - (deSitter) - (2) - Jan. 23, 2004, 05:53:14 AM EST

You keep saying the Irish don't like us any more - (hnick) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2004, 07:45:54 AM EST

Re: You keep saying the Irish don't like us any more - (deSitter) - Jan. 23, 2004, 08:03:48 AM EST

About these replies - (jake123) - (3) - Jan. 22, 2004, 10:31:02 AM EST

You and I (at least I think it was you) - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2004, 11:46:29 AM EST

It would do - (jake123) - Jan. 22, 2004, 01:16:08 PM EST

That is my sense of an attitude towards US persons, thus far - (Ashton) - Jan. 23, 2004, 06:05:30 AM EST

did you watch cheney/lieberman during the last go round? - (boxley) - (3) - Jan. 21, 2004, 12:19:15 PM EST

Not Breshnev era, Trotsky ;-) - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2004, 01:02:42 PM EST

If you watched the VP debates last go round - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:00:39 PM EST

Cheney is not stupid. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 21, 2004, 02:06:10 PM EST

Re: Bring it on... - (deSitter) - (3) - Jan. 21, 2004, 10:22:43 AM EST

It the 50 percent of the people who don't vote that - (danreck) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2004, 12:16:08 PM EST

settle for an amiable rogue? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2004, 12:22:15 PM EST

A sucklessful candidate? -NT - (danreck) - Jan. 21, 2004, 12:32:54 PM EST

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