Post #136,773
1/20/04 9:00:25 PM
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Mike Rowe Soft
bastards
[link|http://www.canada.com/vancouver/theprovince/story.asp?id=3F149EB5-811B-418E-929C-7C08ABD2EF5D|http://www.canada.co...929C-7C08ABD2EF5D]
thanx,
bill
same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned,
Gabriel Dupre
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Post #136,777
1/20/04 9:08:28 PM
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I love the names of the lawyers
Smart and Biggar. One wonders if they were chosen as a subconcious comeback to the standard jokes about what Microsoft might really stand for...
Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #136,872
1/21/04 1:12:22 PM
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This one's not bad.
If you don't agressively defend your trademark, you can lose it. I can't see where this was a bad thing for MSFT to do. The kid *had* to know what he was doing when he registered that domain. Unjustified PR for a squatter imo.
bcnu,
Mikem
I don't do third world languages. So no, I don't do Java.
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Post #136,883
1/21/04 1:56:00 PM
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I say, I say. It's a JOKE son.
MS went to far on this one.
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Post #136,904
1/21/04 2:21:48 PM
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Getting lots of play up here
They did a two to three minute bit on it on the morning show on the local radio station.
If he'd done a parody, msft wouldn't have a prayer, but since he's trying to start a company, they will win. However, it will probably turn into a PR nightmare for them; they could certainly have handled it better than they have.
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Post #136,908
1/21/04 2:26:56 PM
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When was the last time Micros~1 worried...
...bout any of their actions creating a "PR nightmare"? Hell, the last 3 years of their existance ahs been a PR nightmare, and they're still selling product (and, much more importantly, stock).
They don't care, and why should they? Sheeple still buy their shit.
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #136,917
1/21/04 2:39:27 PM
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Different market
different market realities. That said, I don't think it will influence the number of sales a lot; after all, most sales are preloads anyway. It's effect will be more long term, and more insidious than that... the kid's seventeen years old, and MSFT Canada is using an awfully large sledgehammer to swat an awfully small fly.
The point that I was making is that this is common knowledge here now; if it's making the drive-in shows, it's nationwide.
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Post #136,907
1/21/04 2:26:28 PM
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But Mike has a point on this one
Microsoft did have to defend it when they learned about it. No choice, or else they could stand to lose their next real case very fast.
Of course they didn't have to decide to sue rather than give the kid $1000. But I can understand a lawyer being afraid of being seen to produce a precedent. Particularly with all of the variations that people could come up with (eg "m1crosoft", "micr0soft", "micro5oft", "micros0ft", various combinations expanding out).
Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #136,911
1/21/04 2:28:58 PM
1/21/04 2:29:25 PM
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There is one fly in the ointment for Micros~1:
The guy's name is really Mike Rowe, and he develops software. IIRC, the WIPO specifically allows one to use one's own name in their domain. (i.e. you own your own name!)
[edit: typos]
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
Edited by jb4
Jan. 21, 2004, 02:29:25 PM EST
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Post #136,914
1/21/04 2:31:57 PM
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We'll see
I'm just saying that I can see why Microsoft's lawyers did what they did.
I didn't say that I liked it.
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #136,934
1/21/04 3:41:47 PM
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My sentiments exactly.
bcnu,
Mikem
I don't do third world languages. So no, I don't do Java.
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Post #136,972
1/21/04 6:13:44 PM
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Re: We'll see
Oh, I agree. And they may even prevail. I'm just saying that it's not the slam dunk that the lead post of this thread implied that it was.
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #137,162
1/22/04 2:37:39 PM
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latest news, microsoft was perhaps hasty
[link|http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=573&e=16&u=/nm/20040121/od_nm/odd_canada_microsoft_dc|http://story.news.ya...nada_microsoft_dc] Microsoft Corp. indicated on Tuesday it might have overreacted to the Web site of Canadian teenager Mike Rowe who had added the word "soft" to his name and registered the address mikerowesoft.com.
"We take our trademark seriously, but in this case maybe a little too seriously," Microsoft spokesman Jim Desler said.
"We appreciate that Mike Rowe is a young entrepreneur who came up with a creative domain name, so we're currently in the process of resolving this matter in a way that will be fair to him and satisfy our obligations under trademark law," Desler said. the beast backs off snarling thanx, bill same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned,
Gabriel Dupre
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #137,178
1/22/04 3:19:46 PM
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Yeah, somebody woke up
and told the PHBs that they weren't doing their company any favours with this one.
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Post #139,027
1/31/04 1:24:06 AM
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Words fail
[link|http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312|http://cgi.ebay.com/...018&category=2312]
Kid is selling the letter from Microsoft in an inch think packet of communiques with M$'s lawyers.
The sickening part is the bidding is over $32K for it.
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Post #139,028
1/31/04 2:30:24 AM
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so he only has 2 copies
Hmmm, a few minutes at Kinkos and he has a few more....
I'm amazed anyone wants a copy. For what purpose??
Have fun,
Carl Forde
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Post #139,043
1/31/04 8:49:12 AM
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Now over $45K w/129 bids!!!
"All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever."
1 Peter 1:24-25
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Post #139,155
1/31/04 9:49:25 PM
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Now just shy of 102K USD.
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Post #139,305
2/2/04 10:51:45 AM
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Up at $20,560,100.00 now.
[link|http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13910|TheInquirer] story.
On [link|http://offer.ebay.com/ws3/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=3382073018|ebay] it seems that many people have trouble typing their bids...
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #139,311
2/2/04 11:28:10 AM
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Pretty obvious what's happening
People placing obviously "accidental" bids, grabbing a quick screenshot for posterity, then retracting. I wonder how many people are going to lose their accounts over this.
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #139,345
2/2/04 3:17:48 PM
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Now down to $8,300.00
"All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever."
1 Peter 1:24-25
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Post #139,083
1/31/04 11:23:13 AM
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guess who is doing the bidding? :-)
same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned,
Gabriel Dupre
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #139,158
1/31/04 9:54:19 PM
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ROFL! ...to leave no trace.
Alex
The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. -- Plutarch
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Post #139,560
2/3/04 12:02:08 PM
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Do-over
It had gotten up into the millions because people were bidding then retracting. He's removed all bids and started over. [link|http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312|http://cgi.ebay.com/...018&category=2312] On Feb-02-04 at 16:35:23 PST, seller added the following information:
I have now removed all of the bids because of the amount of bogus bids this auction has received. If you were a serious bidder please contact me and I will forward you the stipulations of the auction. -----
Steve
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Post #139,189
2/1/04 12:56:39 AM
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Reminds me of Slash Zero Software
they had registered micr0soft.com and s0ft.com both with zeros instead of an o in part of the name. They made some sort of CPU Booster that was supposed to double the CPU speed. It did not help that they had Anti-MS statements on their web site. Somehow I think the MSLawyers got them to give up the domain names or go out of business with legal bills exceeding their income. Anyone remember that case?
s0ft.com seems to go to some porno site now. :( I don't even want to try micr0soft.com and see where it leads.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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