Yesterday's Denver Post

Post #135,863 by tuberculosis 1/15/04 9:39:26 AM 8/21/07 5:57:28 AM Reply	Yesterday's Denver Post Had a headline that screamed "Bush to Promote Marriage". Something about a program focused on lower income folks to provide pre-matrimonial counseling to prospective couples on interpersonal relationships. Rather akin to what most churches make you go through - only now funded with tax dollars. So maybe this guy gets it! Or maybe he's just pushing his conservative christian agenda. I didn't see anything on tax relief for married people. At the moment, you take a financial hit if marrying someone of similar income level. Incidentally, today's screams "Continue the Journey" which is meant to push the space program thing but somehow brings up the lame "don't change horses in mid-stream" ads from Wag the Dog. "I believe that many of the systems we build today in Java would be better built in Smalltalk and Gemstone." -- Martin Fowler, JAOO 2003 Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:57:28 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #135,865 by deSitter 1/15/04 9:42:32 AM Reply	Re: Yesterday's Denver Post It's a gross perversion of the idea and exactly the opposite of what needs to happen - for government to stay out of the natural relations people have developed over millenia. In fact such a thing demonstrates that, as far as the traditional idea of a family as basic societal unit goes, the game is over. -drl
Post #135,868 by danreck 1/15/04 10:36:18 AM Reply	A question for you... Do you think it is a gross perversion of the Government to have created cyclic welfare? Many of the "rules" were definately anti marriage and anti nuclear marriage. After much thought, I think that many of our (people born post '50s where television ownership became ubiquitous) notions of what a family is supposed to be came from Hollywood. I can definately say that I would rather my 4 year old son watched the Andy Griffith Show (picked specifically because Andy was a widower) than Will and Grace. Some say Hollywood "reflects" society, but I think it does a little more. There is no doubt in my ex-military mind that the women's movement had many consequences that may or may not have been planned. Such as: the best and the brightest women in the country no longer automatically went into teaching and nursing, two professions that sadly miss them. In essence, the labor pool increased by almost half, and drove wages down. This created the phenomena of two wage earners to make the equivalent of one. It also created a societal attitude that sort of demeaned women who chose to stay home and raise the kids. This is just off the top of my head... Counter to what has been said, Congress enacted an end to the "marriage penalty" in their tax reform, it just doesn't kick in until 2006, unless we elect a Democrat as president. It seems that they are all tripping over themselves to repeal the tax cuts. Greedy dumb bastards... Just a few thoughts, Danno
Post #135,887 by danreck 1/15/04 11:54:32 AM Reply	Never mind... I read this forum first, before I ventured into the News forum. You've answered my question in spades... In my best online Gilda voice, "nevermind". Just a few thoughts, Danno

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