Post #132,709
12/29/03 11:25:20 PM
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Racial definitions in the US
[link|http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Nightline/SciTech/racial_identity_031228.html|ABC News] "I just glanced at it, just a cursory glance initially \ufffd didn't really notice it much," Joseph said. "Then, I went back to it, because all of a sudden it hit me exactly what I had read. And it read, 57 percent Indo-European, 39 percent Native American, 4 percent East Asian and 0 percent African.
After a lifetime as a black man, Wayne Joseph discovered he probably isn't black at all. Both of his parents are Creole and because of that and their skin color had assumed for many generations that they where primarly black. But if they where, none of the genes have carried forward to Joseph. The article carries this over to the question of American racial identity. A person is considered black or white or indian or whatever, but the reality is much messier. A person could have genes for many different groups and even closly related people might have widely different ratios. Jay
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Post #132,713
12/30/03 12:28:14 AM
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All pure here . .
. . just Teuton, Mongol and Slav - and NO Fins (sheesh, one drop of Hungarian and they classify you as a Hungarian).
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Post #132,731
12/30/03 4:50:43 AM
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Ghengis von Rasumovsky
-drl
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Post #132,735
12/30/03 8:14:17 AM
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75% Swedish
The rest is French and a tiny bit (1/32) of Canadian Native American.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #132,787
12/30/03 1:22:25 PM
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Swiss and cross-the-Channel megamix
-drl
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Post #132,740
12/30/03 8:47:03 AM
12/30/03 8:48:39 AM
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Mostly German, sorta.
The German side of my family resided in the Fatherland at least since Roman times, AFAIK.
The other side is French (from the Alsace, surname Muller *grin*) with a memory of a Welshman in the line - remembered only for his bizarre name, Greenleaf Doubtit (It was always a side note when the name was mentioned that 'Doubtit' WAS as in "I doubt it"). This name has been literally passed down through the generations on my mother's side. Nobody knows who he was, or why the name anymore.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Edited by imric
Dec. 30, 2003, 08:48:39 AM EST
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Post #132,868
12/30/03 6:16:58 PM
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Possibly 100% Norwegian
There might be a Swede somewhere about 6 generations back, though. And my family's been in America since before the Civil War.
Brian Bronson
Who, with Ole and Lars, are going to refurbish those used septic tanks we bought and use them to invade Sweden and Finland.
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Post #132,979
12/31/03 11:42:08 AM
12/31/03 11:47:21 AM
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Not really sure of all of it
My grandfather (mother's father) was a Twining, related to the Twinings who run the British Tea Company that originated YEARS ago.
My grandmother (mother's mother) was... well, no one really knows. We suspect she was born in the east somewhere, maybe Virginia, then she was kidnapped from her parents, (this much we tracked), and left in an orphanage or something which later burned down. Then she was taken and raised by gypsies. I know, it's weird, but it's true.
My mother was born and raised in Chicago, my dad was born and raised in Kentucky. His parents died years before I came along. My parents met in Chicago while he was in the service, then married after and moved to St. Louis.
We haven't figured out where his surname originated, but I guess that makes me part British, part... gypsy? and part.. Kentuckian?
Nightowl >8#
NEED A NEW QUOTE SOON!
Edited by Nightowl
Dec. 31, 2003, 11:47:21 AM EST
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Post #132,751
12/30/03 9:34:12 AM
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My racial definition
Mostly German and Irish, my Grandfather said it was Scot-Irish and he had red hair. My Grandmother was Slavic. That is about all I know, we are trying to recreate our family tree.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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Post #132,753
12/30/03 9:37:47 AM
12/30/03 9:39:39 AM
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My 12th great grandparents
are Pocahontas and John Rolfe. The story line from there is pretty much every couple had a daughter who married a guy just off the boat.
Which makes me pretty much a western euro-mutt.
Interestingly, in order to be classed Native American, you must be fully 25% (one grandparent pure blood). At least for US College Financial Aid purposes.
"I believe that many of the systems we build today in Java would be better built in Smalltalk and Gemstone."
-- Martin Fowler, JAOO 2003
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Post #132,772
12/30/03 11:07:17 AM
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I'm a bleedin' mutt.
Mom is an Irish/Swedish mix, dad is primarily Scottish, but based off of location is sure to have some Viking blood, as well as a large flake of merchant traveller mutt, a bit of mennonite, and possibly some Native American.
Susan's Filipina, but that could mean anything - Chinese merchants went up 'n down the coastline all the time, and her last name is Italian, so go figure.
I have a blue sign on my door. It says "If this sign is red, you're moving too fast."
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Post #132,778
12/30/03 12:28:21 PM
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Best if a person is considered a person.
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Post #132,800
12/30/03 2:02:37 PM
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When I worked for Rebus
The US 'ethnipride' seemed to puzzle and amused them. Perhaps we have a bit of an inferiority complex when it comes to the depth of our culture. Well, it can't be helped - it will only come through time, if we survive long enough. Until then, perhaps we should be proud of the breadth of our culture instead, born of the huge number of cultures we've absorbed...
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #132,783
12/30/03 12:45:11 PM
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he is a redbone
sometimes black but mostly Native American. looking at the picture he looks like he could pass the paper bag test. Regardless redbones are treated as black wether actually so or not in Louisiana.
thanx,
bill
stick a spork in it.
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Post #132,933
12/31/03 7:05:05 AM
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How 'bout that - Leon Redbone explained
Dem Nawlinsers have some colorful names for human combinatorics. When I was little I thought an octaroon was a type of cookie.
-drl
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Post #132,885
12/30/03 8:22:03 PM
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Slavic mutt
Russian Romanian Checkoslovakian Hungarian.
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Post #132,893
12/30/03 9:43:50 PM
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Really! That seems to fit
Ever listen to Chopin? It's the soundtrack to the Slavic experience. Start with the polonaises, Maurizio Pollini.
(Why does it fit? If I instantly like someone, I've come to suspect Slavic influences. The love of my life was Polish.)
-drl
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Post #132,902
12/30/03 10:29:49 PM
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Except that Hungarian isn't Slavic. :)
At least the language isn't. ... [link|http://www.utoronto.ca/slavic/language/hungarian.html|Hungarian], which is related to Finnish, Estonian, and Lappish, but virtually no other language in Europe ... Of course, the more modern words will migrate from country to country. The Hungarians (Magyars) showed up in their current location around 895 AD. Their original homeland was around the Urals in Asia, or so I was told a couple of months ago by a tour guide in Budapest. Alex
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US president
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Post #132,904
12/30/03 10:38:44 PM
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Re: Except that Hungarian isn't Slavic. :)
I think the Hungarians who dress up in bloomy pants and colorful vests and slouch hats and bang out Liszt on the zongora are Slavs. Those kwazy Slavs can sure cut a rug. But, I may be thinking about Gypsies, come to think of it.
-drl
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Post #132,930
12/31/03 6:44:47 AM
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I'm a bit a guess.
I have a little bit of Philipino or something from south-east asia; AFAIK, enough that my sunburn tends to go brown. (Plus I know that back two or three generations there was a Philipino wife.) Other than that, I would be a good Anglo-Celtic mix. :-)
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #132,932
12/31/03 7:02:59 AM
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You're Ozish
Half English, half beer :)
-drl
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Post #133,098
12/31/03 11:12:15 PM
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Mmm... beer...
So that would make me half Heineken, and part Fosters (ew, but at least you foreigners should get it...), and bits of warm beer, and a dash of whatever beer's popular in Sweden.
(ie: I'm half Dutch, with the rest Oz, English, Swedish)
John. Busy lad.
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Post #133,110
1/1/04 3:23:33 AM
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OmiGawd: a VerMeerkat !!!
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