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Post #131,269

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12/17/03 5:20:30 PM

Re: Still confused

The point is Norm, things in the *real world* occupy all the "dimensions" that God allows. Right now I can just assign coordinates for extra dimensions to everything, and call it higher dimensions - but they would have no physical meaning. The real dimensions are always present *in the thing itself*.

-drl

Post #131,306

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12/17/03 10:43:17 PM

Funny that you mention God

If everything occupies all the dimensions that God created/allowed, that includes Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. How come we cannot see those dimesions as well?

Here is an explination of the fourth dimension:
[link|http://www.hypermaths.org/quadibloc/math/fdiint.htm|http://www.hypermath...c/math/fdiint.htm]

It does not mention having to take a shower.

Apparently we may be living in four dimesions:
[link|http://www.fractalwisdom.com/FractalWisdom/fourth.html|http://www.fractalwi...isdom/fourth.html]

How about Anti-deSitter space? ;)
[link|http://t8web.lanl.gov/people/terning/Physics/extradim.html|http://t8web.lanl.go...ics/extradim.html]

Warped extra dimensions
The discussion so far assumes that the extra dimensions are flat or at least weakly curved, but another startling possibility was suggested by Randall and Sundrum. They studied an extra dimension that was strongly curved (or "warped") by a large negative cosmological constant. (This type of space is known in the literature as an anti-de Sitter (AdS) space, since de Sitter studied a universe with a positive cosmological constant.) They found models where the effective four dimensional (4D) cosmological constant was zero, and where the massless 4D graviton mode was localized on a brane at one end of the finite (or semi-infinite) extra dimension. Essentially the equation for the massless graviton mode is the precise analog of a Schrodinger equation with a binding potential. This provided a new way to make gravity much weaker than the weak interactions; if we happen to live on a brane where the graviton is not localized, then its wavefunction on our brane can be exponentially suppressed. Again the problem of understanding the hierarchy of Planck and weak scales is translated into understanding the size of the extra dimension.

Of the many theories on extra dimesions that I have read, I have not encounted anything about having to take a shower. Nor have you shown me any theories or proof that a shower needs to be taken.

"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

Battlestar Galactica - (drewk) - (113) - Dec. 10, 2003, 08:34:35 AM EST

Borrowed a lot from the Traveller RPG - (orion) - (106) - Dec. 10, 2003, 09:45:20 AM EST

Of all the sources of inspiration... - (pwhysall) - (8) - Dec. 11, 2003, 02:15:55 AM EST

Importance of RPGs - (orion) - (7) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:28:34 AM EST

LOTR inspired by AD&D? - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Dec. 11, 2003, 11:27:05 AM EST

No, the other way around - (jake123) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2003, 11:31:32 AM EST

Thanks for the clarification - (orion) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:37:26 PM EST

Nothing you say - (pwhysall) - (3) - Dec. 11, 2003, 01:14:17 PM EST

The great thing - (JayMehaffey) - Dec. 11, 2003, 01:27:53 PM EST

Right... - (bepatient) - Dec. 11, 2003, 01:38:45 PM EST

/me wonders what pwhysall would say about Grognards... - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 11, 2003, 02:57:17 PM EST

There is little that is original in that sort of thing. - (static) - (96) - Dec. 12, 2003, 05:57:56 AM EST

Drives - (orion) - (95) - Dec. 12, 2003, 01:36:59 PM EST

Re: Drives - (deSitter) - (74) - Dec. 12, 2003, 02:03:28 PM EST

What once was fiction, can become fact. - (orion) - (73) - Dec. 13, 2003, 03:31:53 PM EST

very good point - (SpiceWare) - (6) - Dec. 13, 2003, 04:28:58 PM EST

We would be nowhere - (deSitter) - (5) - Dec. 13, 2003, 05:55:06 PM EST

Sometimes what we know is a lie - (orion) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:41:15 PM EST

Re: Sometimes what we know is a lie - (deSitter) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:56:57 PM EST

Prove the universe - (orion) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:20:36 PM EST

Re: Prove the universe - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:27:24 PM EST

Chedar or Swiss? :) -NT - (orion) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:39:35 PM EST

Nope - essential difference - (deSitter) - (65) - Dec. 13, 2003, 05:53:20 PM EST

We don't know what is and what is not - (orion) - (60) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:50:20 PM EST

Wrong - (deSitter) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:55:23 PM EST

My Instructor has a PHD - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 14, 2003, 10:40:19 AM EST

That doesn't exclude him from being an idiot, Norm. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Dec. 14, 2003, 10:57:34 AM EST

Explain to me - (orion) - (1) - Dec. 14, 2003, 11:02:38 AM EST

Re: Explain to me - (deSitter) - Dec. 14, 2003, 11:11:49 AM EST

That's still wishful thinking. - (pwhysall) - (54) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:56:11 PM EST

They don't exist, yet - (orion) - (53) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:11:25 PM EST

Re: They don't exist, yet - (deSitter) - (52) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:19:44 PM EST

Your thinking is limited - (orion) - (51) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:38:20 PM EST

Re: Your thinking is limited - (deSitter) - (50) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:47:45 PM EST

Re: Your thinking is limited - (orion) - (49) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:51:40 PM EST

Re: Your thinking is limited - (deSitter) - (48) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:12:53 PM EST

Time is relative - (orion) - (47) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:24:39 PM EST

Re: Time is relative - (deSitter) - (46) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:15:08 PM EST

So this proof - (orion) - (45) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:54:02 PM EST

Re: So this proof - (deSitter) - (44) - Dec. 13, 2003, 10:04:48 PM EST

Other dimensions - (orion) - (43) - Dec. 14, 2003, 10:52:34 AM EST

Re: Other dimensions - (deSitter) - (42) - Dec. 14, 2003, 11:17:54 AM EST

Unless you moved out of the sphere of the 3rd dimension - (orion) - (41) - Dec. 14, 2003, 06:45:35 PM EST

Language and math are endless fun, no? - (Ashton) - (40) - Dec. 16, 2003, 03:09:58 AM EST

The point you have missed - (orion) - (37) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:21:44 PM EST

Re: The point you have missed - (deSitter) - (35) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:49:02 PM EST

I usually ignore things that don't make sense - (orion) - (34) - Dec. 16, 2003, 07:52:16 PM EST

make sense out of things you can't ignore -NT - (deSitter) - Dec. 16, 2003, 08:12:44 PM EST

lets review taking a shower - (boxley) - (32) - Dec. 17, 2003, 11:12:10 AM EST

Still confused - (orion) - (31) - Dec. 17, 2003, 05:04:54 PM EST

Re: Still confused - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2003, 05:20:30 PM EST

Funny that you mention God - (orion) - Dec. 17, 2003, 10:43:17 PM EST

Okay you asked for it :-) - (boxley) - (27) - Dec. 17, 2003, 08:32:08 PM EST

Still doesn't answer my questions - (orion) - (26) - Dec. 17, 2003, 10:45:12 PM EST

stopped showering for 2 weeks and find out - (boxley) - (25) - Dec. 17, 2003, 11:03:35 PM EST

Observable and measurable - (orion) - (24) - Dec. 18, 2003, 07:54:14 AM EST

Mu - (pwhysall) - (22) - Dec. 18, 2003, 08:06:19 AM EST

More like - (orion) - (21) - Dec. 18, 2003, 02:10:22 PM EST

Re: More like - (deSitter) - (20) - Dec. 18, 2003, 03:05:01 PM EST

Somewhat - (orion) - (15) - Dec. 18, 2003, 04:17:49 PM EST

Internet effect? - (deSitter) - (14) - Dec. 18, 2003, 04:16:34 PM EST

You mean NASA is wrong? - (orion) - (13) - Dec. 18, 2003, 04:24:31 PM EST

What is sacred about NASA? - (deSitter) - (11) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:51:39 PM EST

Newtonian gravity - (orion) - (10) - Dec. 18, 2003, 08:16:30 PM EST

Re: Newtonian gravity - (deSitter) - (9) - Dec. 18, 2003, 08:44:05 PM EST

As I said before - (orion) - (8) - Dec. 22, 2003, 05:34:51 PM EST

Hopefully at your level - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Dec. 30, 2003, 01:49:09 AM EST

Now that is what I wanted to see - (orion) - (6) - Dec. 30, 2003, 10:01:16 AM EST

"If its on the Internet, it must be true!" - (deSitter) - (5) - Dec. 30, 2003, 01:42:55 PM EST

All I wanted was a reference or citation - (orion) - (4) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:12:57 PM EST

Bull - (deSitter) - (3) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:20:53 PM EST

Why did I think about what Ben said? - (orion) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:51:11 PM EST

You are both right - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 30, 2003, 06:12:38 PM EST

I agree, end of discussion - (orion) - Dec. 30, 2003, 07:43:07 PM EST

Newton was wrong. - (admin) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:52:47 PM EST

You're wrong about dark matter - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:27:51 PM EST

Re: You're wrong about dark matter - (deSitter) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:48:43 PM EST

dark matter is to physicists - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2003, 11:22:03 PM EST

Re: dark matter is to physicists - (deSitter) - Dec. 18, 2003, 11:34:49 PM EST

can show some gravity effect== observable -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 18, 2003, 09:39:04 AM EST

ICLRPD:Why isn't there a shower in other dimensions? (new thread) - (Arkadiy) - Dec. 18, 2003, 12:45:38 PM EST

Another point - (deSitter) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:51:10 PM EST

Are you denying the existence of imaginary numbers? - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:45:16 PM EST

Nah.. he's imagining the number of existences. -NT - (Ashton) - Dec. 18, 2003, 06:17:19 AM EST

Are other things impossible too? - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:41:51 PM EST

Re: Are other things impossible too? - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:06:22 PM EST

Wow. - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 6, 2004, 10:47:19 AM EST

there is 3 ways to defeat gravity - (boxley) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:18:08 PM EST

My Favorite - (altmann) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2003, 04:16:56 PM EST

Hey - that's more original than usual. - (static) - Dec. 13, 2003, 04:09:48 AM EST

Funny how you can remember - (Ashton) - (2) - Dec. 12, 2003, 06:05:43 PM EST

And funny how you can find the time... (new thread) - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 12, 2003, 06:48:36 PM EST

My brain works that way - (orion) - Dec. 13, 2003, 03:25:25 PM EST

Clue - (pwhysall) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 01:14:17 AM EST

I never said it was real - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:49:00 PM EST

No He Didn't - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:59:18 PM EST

Looks like he had something to do with it - (orion) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:15:11 PM EST

No - (altmann) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:12:52 PM EST

You'll like this link. - (static) - Dec. 13, 2003, 04:14:08 AM EST

Why parsecs? - (pwhysall) - (6) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:15:40 PM EST

Because Marc W. Miller said so in 1975 - (orion) - (5) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:46:55 PM EST

I played a lot of Traveller back in the day - (jake123) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:18:58 PM EST

Re: I played a lot of Traveller back in the day - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:38:08 PM EST

Re: I played a lot of Traveller back in the day - (deSitter) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:53:03 PM EST

Oh yes - (orion) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 10:03:39 PM EST

Re: Oh yes - (deSitter) - Dec. 13, 2003, 10:08:38 PM EST

forgot one, ya smeghead - (SpiceWare) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2003, 09:53:38 AM EST

How could I forget that one? - (orion) - Dec. 17, 2003, 04:44:52 PM EST

You have to understand... - (FuManChu) - (4) - Dec. 10, 2003, 12:14:34 PM EST

1978 series - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 10, 2003, 03:44:21 PM EST

Reciprocal burst - (altmann) - (2) - Dec. 10, 2003, 04:56:10 PM EST

Noboy picked up on my favorite - (drewk) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:17:49 AM EST

Scorpie's Neuro Clone Chip - (orion) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:41:33 AM EST

compare 2001 - (deSitter) - Dec. 11, 2003, 08:21:43 AM EST

5. Baige.
173 ms