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12/13/03 7:12:52 PM

That was Lawrence M. Krauss

[link|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060977108|http://www.amazon.co...tail/-/0060977108]

and Jeanne Cavelos

[link|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312263872|http://www.amazon.co...tail/-/0312263872]

I've only read the first one, and while very entertaining, it is also a good example of how far removed from observable reality some of the stuff in Sci- Fi like Star Trek is.

--
Chris Altmann

Battlestar Galactica - (drewk) - (113) - Dec. 10, 2003, 08:34:35 AM EST

Borrowed a lot from the Traveller RPG - (orion) - (106) - Dec. 10, 2003, 09:45:20 AM EST

Of all the sources of inspiration... - (pwhysall) - (8) - Dec. 11, 2003, 02:15:55 AM EST

Importance of RPGs - (orion) - (7) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:28:34 AM EST

LOTR inspired by AD&D? - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Dec. 11, 2003, 11:27:05 AM EST

No, the other way around - (jake123) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2003, 11:31:32 AM EST

Thanks for the clarification - (orion) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:37:26 PM EST

Nothing you say - (pwhysall) - (3) - Dec. 11, 2003, 01:14:17 PM EST

The great thing - (JayMehaffey) - Dec. 11, 2003, 01:27:53 PM EST

Right... - (bepatient) - Dec. 11, 2003, 01:38:45 PM EST

/me wonders what pwhysall would say about Grognards... - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 11, 2003, 02:57:17 PM EST

There is little that is original in that sort of thing. - (static) - (96) - Dec. 12, 2003, 05:57:56 AM EST

Drives - (orion) - (95) - Dec. 12, 2003, 01:36:59 PM EST

Re: Drives - (deSitter) - (74) - Dec. 12, 2003, 02:03:28 PM EST

What once was fiction, can become fact. - (orion) - (73) - Dec. 13, 2003, 03:31:53 PM EST

very good point - (SpiceWare) - (6) - Dec. 13, 2003, 04:28:58 PM EST

We would be nowhere - (deSitter) - (5) - Dec. 13, 2003, 05:55:06 PM EST

Sometimes what we know is a lie - (orion) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:41:15 PM EST

Re: Sometimes what we know is a lie - (deSitter) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:56:57 PM EST

Prove the universe - (orion) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:20:36 PM EST

Re: Prove the universe - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:27:24 PM EST

Chedar or Swiss? :) -NT - (orion) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:39:35 PM EST

Nope - essential difference - (deSitter) - (65) - Dec. 13, 2003, 05:53:20 PM EST

We don't know what is and what is not - (orion) - (60) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:50:20 PM EST

Wrong - (deSitter) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:55:23 PM EST

My Instructor has a PHD - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 14, 2003, 10:40:19 AM EST

That doesn't exclude him from being an idiot, Norm. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Dec. 14, 2003, 10:57:34 AM EST

Explain to me - (orion) - (1) - Dec. 14, 2003, 11:02:38 AM EST

Re: Explain to me - (deSitter) - Dec. 14, 2003, 11:11:49 AM EST

That's still wishful thinking. - (pwhysall) - (54) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:56:11 PM EST

They don't exist, yet - (orion) - (53) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:11:25 PM EST

Re: They don't exist, yet - (deSitter) - (52) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:19:44 PM EST

Your thinking is limited - (orion) - (51) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:38:20 PM EST

Re: Your thinking is limited - (deSitter) - (50) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:47:45 PM EST

Re: Your thinking is limited - (orion) - (49) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:51:40 PM EST

Re: Your thinking is limited - (deSitter) - (48) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:12:53 PM EST

Time is relative - (orion) - (47) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:24:39 PM EST

Re: Time is relative - (deSitter) - (46) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:15:08 PM EST

So this proof - (orion) - (45) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:54:02 PM EST

Re: So this proof - (deSitter) - (44) - Dec. 13, 2003, 10:04:48 PM EST

Other dimensions - (orion) - (43) - Dec. 14, 2003, 10:52:34 AM EST

Re: Other dimensions - (deSitter) - (42) - Dec. 14, 2003, 11:17:54 AM EST

Unless you moved out of the sphere of the 3rd dimension - (orion) - (41) - Dec. 14, 2003, 06:45:35 PM EST

Language and math are endless fun, no? - (Ashton) - (40) - Dec. 16, 2003, 03:09:58 AM EST

The point you have missed - (orion) - (37) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:21:44 PM EST

Re: The point you have missed - (deSitter) - (35) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:49:02 PM EST

I usually ignore things that don't make sense - (orion) - (34) - Dec. 16, 2003, 07:52:16 PM EST

make sense out of things you can't ignore -NT - (deSitter) - Dec. 16, 2003, 08:12:44 PM EST

lets review taking a shower - (boxley) - (32) - Dec. 17, 2003, 11:12:10 AM EST

Still confused - (orion) - (31) - Dec. 17, 2003, 05:04:54 PM EST

Re: Still confused - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2003, 05:20:30 PM EST

Funny that you mention God - (orion) - Dec. 17, 2003, 10:43:17 PM EST

Okay you asked for it :-) - (boxley) - (27) - Dec. 17, 2003, 08:32:08 PM EST

Still doesn't answer my questions - (orion) - (26) - Dec. 17, 2003, 10:45:12 PM EST

stopped showering for 2 weeks and find out - (boxley) - (25) - Dec. 17, 2003, 11:03:35 PM EST

Observable and measurable - (orion) - (24) - Dec. 18, 2003, 07:54:14 AM EST

Mu - (pwhysall) - (22) - Dec. 18, 2003, 08:06:19 AM EST

More like - (orion) - (21) - Dec. 18, 2003, 02:10:22 PM EST

Re: More like - (deSitter) - (20) - Dec. 18, 2003, 03:05:01 PM EST

Somewhat - (orion) - (15) - Dec. 18, 2003, 04:17:49 PM EST

Internet effect? - (deSitter) - (14) - Dec. 18, 2003, 04:16:34 PM EST

You mean NASA is wrong? - (orion) - (13) - Dec. 18, 2003, 04:24:31 PM EST

What is sacred about NASA? - (deSitter) - (11) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:51:39 PM EST

Newtonian gravity - (orion) - (10) - Dec. 18, 2003, 08:16:30 PM EST

Re: Newtonian gravity - (deSitter) - (9) - Dec. 18, 2003, 08:44:05 PM EST

As I said before - (orion) - (8) - Dec. 22, 2003, 05:34:51 PM EST

Hopefully at your level - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Dec. 30, 2003, 01:49:09 AM EST

Now that is what I wanted to see - (orion) - (6) - Dec. 30, 2003, 10:01:16 AM EST

"If its on the Internet, it must be true!" - (deSitter) - (5) - Dec. 30, 2003, 01:42:55 PM EST

All I wanted was a reference or citation - (orion) - (4) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:12:57 PM EST

Bull - (deSitter) - (3) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:20:53 PM EST

Why did I think about what Ben said? - (orion) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:51:11 PM EST

You are both right - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 30, 2003, 06:12:38 PM EST

I agree, end of discussion - (orion) - Dec. 30, 2003, 07:43:07 PM EST

Newton was wrong. - (admin) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:52:47 PM EST

You're wrong about dark matter - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:27:51 PM EST

Re: You're wrong about dark matter - (deSitter) - Dec. 18, 2003, 05:48:43 PM EST

dark matter is to physicists - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2003, 11:22:03 PM EST

Re: dark matter is to physicists - (deSitter) - Dec. 18, 2003, 11:34:49 PM EST

can show some gravity effect== observable -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 18, 2003, 09:39:04 AM EST

ICLRPD:Why isn't there a shower in other dimensions? (new thread) - (Arkadiy) - Dec. 18, 2003, 12:45:38 PM EST

Another point - (deSitter) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:51:10 PM EST

Are you denying the existence of imaginary numbers? - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:45:16 PM EST

Nah.. he's imagining the number of existences. -NT - (Ashton) - Dec. 18, 2003, 06:17:19 AM EST

Are other things impossible too? - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:41:51 PM EST

Re: Are other things impossible too? - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:06:22 PM EST

Wow. - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 6, 2004, 10:47:19 AM EST

there is 3 ways to defeat gravity - (boxley) - Dec. 13, 2003, 08:18:08 PM EST

My Favorite - (altmann) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2003, 04:16:56 PM EST

Hey - that's more original than usual. - (static) - Dec. 13, 2003, 04:09:48 AM EST

Funny how you can remember - (Ashton) - (2) - Dec. 12, 2003, 06:05:43 PM EST

And funny how you can find the time... (new thread) - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 12, 2003, 06:48:36 PM EST

My brain works that way - (orion) - Dec. 13, 2003, 03:25:25 PM EST

Clue - (pwhysall) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 01:14:17 AM EST

I never said it was real - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:49:00 PM EST

No He Didn't - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:59:18 PM EST

Looks like he had something to do with it - (orion) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:15:11 PM EST

No - (altmann) - Dec. 13, 2003, 07:12:52 PM EST

You'll like this link. - (static) - Dec. 13, 2003, 04:14:08 AM EST

Why parsecs? - (pwhysall) - (6) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:15:40 PM EST

Because Marc W. Miller said so in 1975 - (orion) - (5) - Dec. 13, 2003, 06:46:55 PM EST

I played a lot of Traveller back in the day - (jake123) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:18:58 PM EST

Re: I played a lot of Traveller back in the day - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:38:08 PM EST

Re: I played a lot of Traveller back in the day - (deSitter) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2003, 09:53:03 PM EST

Oh yes - (orion) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2003, 10:03:39 PM EST

Re: Oh yes - (deSitter) - Dec. 13, 2003, 10:08:38 PM EST

forgot one, ya smeghead - (SpiceWare) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2003, 09:53:38 AM EST

How could I forget that one? - (orion) - Dec. 17, 2003, 04:44:52 PM EST

You have to understand... - (FuManChu) - (4) - Dec. 10, 2003, 12:14:34 PM EST

1978 series - (orion) - (3) - Dec. 10, 2003, 03:44:21 PM EST

Reciprocal burst - (altmann) - (2) - Dec. 10, 2003, 04:56:10 PM EST

Noboy picked up on my favorite - (drewk) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:17:49 AM EST

Scorpie's Neuro Clone Chip - (orion) - Dec. 11, 2003, 10:41:33 AM EST

compare 2001 - (deSitter) - Dec. 11, 2003, 08:21:43 AM EST

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