Post #120,271
10/6/03 11:37:03 PM
10/8/03 9:03:54 PM
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Gamehead brother on Linux part 2
The replacement hard drive comes in today. I installed Red Hat 9.0 on it. No problems, everything appears to be working fine.
Tried the Red Hat update, but it said it couldn't register the account name. Tried different names, same result. No biggie, can update later.
Installed Mozilla 1.4 and OpenOffice.Org 1.1, but the Red Hat menu still launches the Mozilla 1.2 and OpenOffice.Org 1.0 files. I thought these would get updated? Did I miss something? I also installed some more programs, but they don't appear in the Menu. I ran the install scripts, RPMs, etc as Root. Any help here?
I installed the latest WINE. Went to look for the Diablo 2 Howto off of WineHQ.Org, it points to a dead link on a Geocities site. Then I search Google and find: [link|http://www.latte.ca/D2LOD/|http://www.latte.ca/D2LOD/] and follow it to the letter. Diablo 2 did not run, I get an error about a missing DirectDraw file. Unsure if I have to install DirectX, the Howto doesn't mention that. I'm sending email to the maintainer of that Howto. I did the install Diablo 2 without the VFAT Windows partition, downloaded the file, extracted it to /usr/share/wine-c/Diablo\\ II/ and copied all the d2*.mpq files using the command lines shown. I did the command lines for the permissions. Changed the userdef.reg file. Tried both ways of invoking WINE with the game.exe file.
This, so far, has been very fustrating.
Edit: Email on that Howto bounced.
Edit: Found out that Red Hat's certificate expires on Aug 28, 2003. Need to apply an update to get the Red hat update program to work. [link|https://rhn.redhat.com/help/latest-up2date.pxt|https://rhn.redhat.c...atest-up2date.pxt]
Found out that despite the WINE Howtos and Docs talking about /usr/share/wine-c/ that WINE really uses ~.wine/c/ instead. Applied the 1.08 update to that directory and it apparently works if I select DirectDraw2D User and GDI, any other setting causes a lockup or messy screen.
Edit: With cracks, Diablo II runs on WINE. It needs cracks because it cannot replicate the CD copy protection that Windows has. There is one big drawback, you cannot play on Battle.Net under WINE. I tried a crack that said you could bypass Battle.Net protection, but WINE didn't like it. Looks like I may have to reinstall XP Pro to get Battle.Net Diablo II going. A shame, it seems like I almost got Linux working for him.
Edit: He is fustrated by lockups in Linux. He had four copies of Mozilla open, left and came back to discover the system was frozen. No Control-Alt-1 would work to get to a shell. Red Hat Update freezes and locks up. Mozilla sometimes won't load web pages no matter what link is pressed and won't reload the page when clicking on the Reload button.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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Oct. 6, 2003, 11:49:15 PM EDT
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Oct. 8, 2003, 04:14:58 PM EDT
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Post #120,541
10/8/03 8:50:38 PM
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missing feature
Installed Mozilla 1.4 and OpenOffice.Org 1.1, but the Red Hat menu still launches the Mozilla 1.2 and OpenOffice.Org 1.0 files. I thought these would get updated? Did I miss something? I also installed some more programs, but they don't appear in the Menu. I ran the install scripts, RPMs, etc as Root. Any help here? No installation (other then the system installer) I have run yet updates the menus in Red Hat*. It seems to be a missing feature in RPMs. Jay
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Post #121,102
10/13/03 6:32:19 PM
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It needs to be added if Linux wants to gain desktop
marketshare. Plus an easy way to remove RPMs is needed. I tried using the RPM program to uninstall JRE so I could reinstall it, and it hung the machine one time, and did a dump the other time. The problem is that Mozilla doesn't seem to have the Java Plug-In installed, and I cannot install it without running the JRE again. But running the JRE again it says it is already installed and refuses to do anything. So my brother cannot play Pogo or Yahoo Java games now.
Plus Red Hat 9.0 crashes, not as much as Windows, but it does crash from time to time when WINE or a Game is running, or if I try to uninstall a RPM. Whatever happened to the Linux that wouldn't crash no matter what? Slakware back in 1995-1996 ran rock-solid as far as I can remember.
Plus I found that Mozilla 1.4 installed, but /usr/lib/mozilla only contains a plugin directory which is empty. The install said it finished, but I have a feeling it hit an error during install and kept the 1.2.1 configuration in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1 it says 1.4 is already installed, yet I don't see any files for 1.4 where they should be.
Well Diablo II won't run Battle.net under WINE, and he cannot afford a Virtual Machine for Linux, so it is back to, ugh, XP Pro tomorrow. Can't even run his Java games because of some kind of Fscked Configuration Issue with Linux that didn't install the JRE Plug-In. Sun's FAQs are written for Windows, won't give details on how to uninstall the JRE under Linux. Now that is sad, when Sun won't even support Linux in the FAQ that they wrote for Java.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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Post #121,219
10/14/03 5:34:37 PM
10/15/03 3:47:29 AM
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Try Debian
Its not as pretty to install as the others, but it is not as hard as rumored either. It addresses both points your raise:
- the X packages come with menu items and they are maintained through updates
- most of the problems you describe seem related to RPM. The thing is noted for its database corruption, and once the DB goes, your box is toast. It is the very thing that drove me back to Debian (which was the first Linux distro I ever installed, so it *can't* be that hard!) after a tour of some other distros (Mandrake 6.* & 8.* and Suse 7.*)
For Java, I'm using the 1.4 SDK and/or JRE straight from Sun. It seems to have the fewest problems with the dreaded browser plugin. Park it in /usr/local and *link* jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Works fine here.
Edited by scoenye
Oct. 15, 2003, 03:47:29 AM EDT
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Post #121,223
10/14/03 5:41:03 PM
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Debian: It Just Works
Disclaimer: I haven't gotten around to trying WINE yet, but when I do, most of it will be accomplished by typing "aptitude install wine" more than likely.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #121,227
10/14/03 6:17:51 PM
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It can be the easiest of all.
Scope out Libranet, or PGI, or Xandros, sometime.
Consider pure Debian to be the reference implementation on which other people (like the above mentioned Googlefodder) can build.
Peter
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Post #121,305
10/15/03 12:20:11 PM
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Ummm . . Aren't you concerned . .
. . you will be sued for misappropriation of the letters "sco" in conjunction with Linux?
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #121,313
10/15/03 1:14:26 PM
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Hey, I was there first!
SCO was founded in '79, I'm from '66. Let them change their name (again...)
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Post #121,295
10/15/03 11:12:34 AM
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My short advice...
If he's using his computer primarily for games - Diablo 2 and Java games - go back to WinXP. He probably won't be happy on Linux.
That's not to say I don't like Linux. I prefer it.
But while Wine is great for the Linux user who wants to run windows programs, it isn't sufficient (imo) for the Windows user who doesn't want to run windows OS. YMMV.
(That also said, follow scoenye's advice on Mozilla and Java. I seem to recall a link having to be made.)
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Post #121,344
10/15/03 5:33:32 PM
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That is what we did
moved him back to XP Pro now he can play Diablo II and other games.
Not saying Linux is bad, just that it wouldn't run the games he likes to play. If Blizzard had a Linux port of Diablo II and Worlds Of Warcraft, then it might be a different story. The hard part seems to be to get the Gaming Companies to port a Linux version of their popular games.
He downloaded the JRE but couldn't figure out how to run it. He clicked on the file and nothing happened. He didn't know he had to chmod it to make it executable, which extracted the RPM when run, which installs the JRE. This was a turn-off for him. The JRE problem could be fixed, but the Diablo II problem could not be fixed. Since he couldn't connect to Battle.net, he decided to go back to Windows.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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Post #121,354
10/15/03 6:24:13 PM
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Re: That is what we did
[link|http://appdb.codeweavers.com/appview.php?appId=74&versionId=49;PHPSESSID=b6679ae304b985f308a79784210db461|http://appdb.codewea...308a79784210db461]
Search for 'Diablo2 "NO CD CRACK" (lod28b1) battle.net issue resolved' or 'DII With Battlenet!!!'
GIYF
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #121,365
10/15/03 7:43:00 PM
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Applied many NoCD patches
What we got was an additional program that said it could not find game_crk.exe, which we did put into that directory. When the program was run, for some reason it deletes game_crk.exe in that directory, then says it cannot find it. Followed the instructions, made the script but it still didn't work. Only thing I can think of is that we had the Lord Of Destruction expansion pack installed and it needs a different exe file to work.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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Post #121,366
10/15/03 7:48:30 PM
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Then if it needs a different exe, use that one in the script instead...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #121,432
10/16/03 9:57:30 AM
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We did
we tried all versions of the EXE in the script and with different loaders. If you notice, I posted to that WINE thread on Diablo II, I've read the whole thread before and followed each step to the letter. Nothing we tried would enable Battle.Net, and Battle.Net warned about some patches being Trojans that steal CD keys and that they shut down access from some of the patches. It says so on the Blizzard page at: [link|http://www.blizzard.com/support/?id=aInformation0730p1|http://www.blizzard....Information0730p1]
Blizzard Entertainment considers any third-party program that is designed to affect the way the user interacts with Battle.net a hack program. This includes seemingly harmless third-party utilities that work with the game to provide functions that were not included by the game designers. While many of these utilities might not have been created to disrupt the balance of the game, they alter the original design of the program. The detection of any such program by Battle.net may result in the closure of the user's account or even the temporary or permanent banning of the associated CD-Key.
Blizzard is especially focused on removing hack programs created with cheating in mind, but as mentioned above, using third-party programs designed to make things easier also puts the user\ufffds account and/or CD key at risk. As part of our strict anti-hacking policy, this is our best way to ensure that play on Battle.net is equal for everyone. There are no exceptions to this policy.
Many Hack Programs Contain Hidden Trojan Programs Although the majority of Battle.net players enjoy playing fairly, there are still many who are looking for an unfair advantage. These players\ufffd desire to win at all costs has resulted in the creation of many hack programs. Hack programs violate the Battle.net Terms of Service, and just in the past few months, thousands of players who have used them have been banned from Battle.net.
This includes bypassing the Diablo II/Battle.Net CD check I am told. Could be FUD, but we aren't taking any chances. Battle.Net does not like patches: [link|http://www.battle.net/|http://www.battle.net/] Read the "StarCraft, Diablo II, and Warcraft III Accounts Closed Tuesday, September 30, 2003"
A number of additional accounts and CD Keys have been tied to the use of a hack or cheat program while playing StarCraft, Diablo II, or Warcraft III on Battle.net. In keeping with our aggressive stance against cheating, we have permanently closed 276,000 StarCraft accounts, 86,000 Diablo II accounts, and 41,000 Warcraft III accounts. We have documented all of the CD Keys that were used with these accounts. 14,000 Warcraft III CD Keys have been banned from ladder play for one month and 2,000 CD Keys are banned from ladder play permanently. Repeat offenders risk having their CD Keys disabled, which will result in the permanent removal of the respective copy of StarCraft, Diablo II, or Warcraft III from Battle.net.
We reinstalled XP, installed Diablo II and LOD expasion without the NoCD patches.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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