If you want to get depressed...

Post #119,892 by ben_tilly 10/2/03 7:17:50 PM 10/2/03 7:40:51 PM Reply	If you want to get depressed... Read [link\|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0738204633/002-8952320-5849624?v=glance\|Winning at New Products] to learn how the process of project choice and definition should go. This is depressing because you will have trouble finding an employer who does even a marginal job at it, and the main failings are in marketing, not technology. (Disclaimer: I am only about half-way through. My belief that the advice is good is based on its making sense, the fact that he makes it clear what evidence his theories are based on, and the fact that when I borrowed this, I was told that it is a classic in its field.) Cheers, Ben PS a good review can be found at [link\|http://www.pdma.org/bookstore/books/winningatnewproducts3rd_review.html\|http://www.pdma.org/...ts3rd_review.html] "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi] Edited by ben_tilly Oct. 2, 2003, 07:40:51 PM EDT If you want to get depressed... Read [link\|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0738204633/002-8952320-5849624?v=glance\|Winning at New Products] to learn how the process of project choice and definition should go. This is depressing because you will have trouble finding an employer who does even a marginal job at it, and the main failings are in marketing, not technology. (Disclaimer: I am only about half-way through. My belief that the advice is good is based on its making sense, the fact that he makes it clear what evidence his theories are based on, and the fact that when I borrowed this, I was told that it is a classic in its field.) Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi] Collapse All History
Post #119,910 by gdaustin 10/2/03 8:53:23 PM 10/2/03 9:02:49 PM Reply	I Don't Want to Get Depressed! I WANT TO WIN! I want to create a software product in a market that people want, and that I can deliver, hopefully via some kind of Internet model. I'm thinking more and more that instead of working for these bozos, that I need to do something different for a while, like teach school and use the free time to work on a software product, following good development processes. I can't just quit my job, because we would be out of money in about 3-4 months, and I don't think I can get a good product built in that time. But, if I had a job with defined hours, and I wasn't obligated after hours, but still make "decent" (30-40k) money, then that 3 months could end up being a year or more. If my wife worked full time, I might even be able to continue teaching for several years to get the product right. I would have to start in August, with the school year, so I'd wouldn't have 3 months of unemployment prior to working. I'm just getting really tired of working for people who think they understand software, systems, and feel like they have to lie, cheat, work their people unreasonable hours, and steal to win. I do believe that nice guys DON'T finish last, because they're straight with their customers. Glen AUstin Edited by gdaustin Oct. 2, 2003, 09:02:49 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #119,971 by ben_tilly 10/3/03 10:46:33 AM Reply	In that case, that book may be useful "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #119,916 by tuberculosis 10/2/03 9:31:56 PM Reply	Too late In Java, you can't escape the creepy feeling. --James Gosling
Post #119,972 by ben_tilly 10/3/03 10:46:59 AM Reply	Sorry... "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #119,981 by inthane-chan 10/3/03 12:08:14 PM Reply	Ben, you sure your full name isn't... Ben "I make grown men want to slit their wrists" Tilly? [image\|/forums/images/warning.png\|0\|This is sarcasm...] In that final hour, when each breath is a struggle to take, and you are looking back over your life's accomplishments, which memories would you treasure? The empires you built, or the joy you spread to others? Therin lies the true measure of a man.

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