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Post #11,974
by deSitter
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10/5/01 3:20:49 PM
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New Even His Teammates Can't Stand Him
The name of the game in baseball is *hustle* - everyone who has ever played has this drilled into his head constantly. Bonds does not hustle. Ever. Being "a great" is a hell of a lot more than numbers. True, his talent is incredible, but IMO that's canceled by his lousy attitude.

OTOH I can completely respect someone like Ty Cobb, a nasty SOB, or Pete Rose, who bet on games. They played 110% all the time, in every game. Rose would sprint to 1st after a walk. It was exhilirating to watch him play.
Post #12,024
by bepatient
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10/5/01 8:43:56 PM
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New Never seen...
Bonds tank a play. Never. The problem with talent like his is that it makes everything he does look easy.

Watch Robby Alomar sometime. Then watch another 2nd baseman. Alomar can make plays on balls that no other 2nd baseman could even reach...but he does it so easily it looks like slow motion.

Sure Bonds is an arrogant SOB. Almost every marquis athlete in his generation is an arrogant SOB. It seems to come with the territory in modern sport.

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Post #12,049
by deSitter
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10/6/01 3:56:16 AM
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Fernando Vina.

Chipper Jones.

Brian Jordan.

Derek Jeter.

David Justice.

Need I say more?
Post #12,092
by Ashton
10/6/01 7:04:51 PM
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New Wondering re such 'talents'.. how they come about.
Idiot savant? Yes, that's an extreme case, but - is it possible that many sports luminaries ('hero' can never again be applied to such dilettantes, we see - that much changed on 9/11) -- are simply deficient in the normal social sensibilities? One-note Johnnys (or Barrys) and *this* happens to be that one note?

Remember, lotsa folks in school never made even the mediocre cliques, were always awkward. Many, later of course - found out how utterly mindless, ovine and silly were those cliques: and got some moxie on their own..

But some never quite get the hang of homo-sap duplicity, glad-handing and other deceptions. Is that enough reason to maybe give the Bonds of the world (and the Dimaggios?) a bit of a break - even some sympathy, perhaps?




Ashton
     Barry Bonds breaks record! - (Silverlock) - (15) - Oct. 4, 2001, 08:44:09 AM EDT
         And... - (Fearless Freep) - Oct. 4, 2001, 09:19:01 AM EDT
         Go Bonds Go - (wharris2) - (13) - Oct. 4, 2001, 10:34:55 AM EDT
             Re: Go Bonds Go - (Fearless Freep) - Oct. 4, 2001, 01:48:23 PM EDT
             You Missed It - (deSitter) - (11) - Oct. 5, 2001, 08:47:37 AM EDT
                 Nay, I say. - (Yendor) - (10) - Oct. 5, 2001, 11:51:22 AM EDT
                     Nay part II - (Fearless Freep) - (6) - Oct. 5, 2001, 12:11:10 PM EDT
                         Like him or not.. - (bepatient) - (5) - Oct. 5, 2001, 12:21:38 PM EDT
                             Yup! - (Fearless Freep) - (4) - Oct. 5, 2001, 12:27:06 PM EDT
                                 Even His Teammates Can't Stand Him - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 5, 2001, 03:20:49 PM EDT
                                     Never seen... - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 5, 2001, 08:43:56 PM EDT
                                         No - (deSitter) - Oct. 6, 2001, 03:56:16 AM EDT
                                         Wondering re such 'talents'.. how they come about. - (Ashton) - Oct. 6, 2001, 07:04:51 PM EDT
                     Stand Corrected - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 5, 2001, 03:30:06 PM EDT
                         Cubs came close in '84 - (wharris2) - Oct. 5, 2001, 10:15:52 PM EDT
                     scratching head about cubs - (wharris2) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:28:16 PM EDT

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