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Post #119,019 by Silverlock 9/26/03 10:33:41 AM Reply	I'd been wondering about that I seem to remember the sea otter population was decimated in the 1800s (for hats?). If the sea otters feeding on sea urchins is what keeps the sea urchins from destroying kelp beds, wouldn't this have happened to the California coast? ----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
Post #119,206 by a6l6e6x 9/27/03 10:11:17 PM Reply	No, you're thinking beaver! [link\|http://www.whiteoak.org/learning/furhat.htm\|The Beaver Fur Hat]. From about 1550 until 1850, felt hats were fashionable in much of Europe and the felt hat industry became the driving force behind the fur trade. By the late 1500's, the beaver was extinct in western Europe and was close to extinction in Scandinavia and Russia. The North American fur trade became a new source and kept the fashion going for another 200 years. Alex "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)
Post #119,218 by kmself 9/28/03 12:14:25 AM Reply	No, he's thinking sea-otter Russian sea-otter hunters ventured as far south as [link\|http://www.parks.sonoma.net/rosshist.html\|Fort Ross], in what is now California, about 50 miles north of present-day San Francisco. \r\n\r\n Annihilation of the sea-otter population has had resonance effects on sea urchins, abalone (another food of the urchins IIRC, and/or otters), shark (predators of otters, particularly great whites), and kelp. \r\n\r\n The sea otter population has rebounded again, but is based on a very narrow genetic baseline. It's currenlty under threat from infection, apparently carried by cat feces washed into coastal waters. With the return of the otter, great white sightings have also increased. --\r\n Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
Post #119,232 by Silverlock 9/28/03 9:39:11 AM Reply	<insert joke here> ----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
Post #119,240 by boxley 9/28/03 11:39:52 AM Reply	otter get more beaver "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

Whaling killed the kelp. - (Silverlock) - (6) - Sept. 25, 2003, 11:50:24 AM EDT

First Springer is a fsckwit first class - (boxley) - (5) - Sept. 25, 2003, 10:32:15 PM EDT

I'd been wondering about that - (Silverlock) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2003, 10:33:41 AM EDT

No, you're thinking beaver! - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - Sept. 27, 2003, 10:11:17 PM EDT

No, he's thinking sea-otter - (kmself) - Sept. 28, 2003, 12:14:25 AM EDT

<insert joke here> -NT - (Silverlock) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2003, 09:39:11 AM EDT

otter get more beaver -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 28, 2003, 11:39:52 AM EDT

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