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New First Springer is a fsckwit first class
whose logic is fuzzy, science is lousy and his wife's nickname for him is asshole. Whaling caused a decline in whales but killer whales have long prefered sea lions over whales, the kelp crashes in Alaskan waters was due to a number of reasons, herring breed in kelp forests which are harvested for herring roe and exported to japan. Overfishing decimated the kelp beds leading to moratorium on harvests until the year before the exxon valdex which decimated the kelp beds. Sea Lions are killed mostly by fishermen, driftnet ocean vacuuming and toxicity of heavy metals. Otters were decimated by man for pelts until the 1950's when the marine mammal act went into effect. Seals are abundant as always. Killer whales have as much to do with decimating kelp beds as Iraqis have to do with the world trade center bombings. Knowing the UA of fairbanks biology crew, beware the agenda. They make mikey moffit positivly reagonesque.
thanx,
bill
"You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete
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New I'd been wondering about that
I seem to remember the sea otter population was decimated in the 1800s (for hats?). If the sea otters feeding on sea urchins is what keeps the sea urchins from destroying kelp beds, wouldn't this have happened to the California coast?
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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
New No, you're thinking beaver!
[link|http://www.whiteoak.org/learning/furhat.htm|The Beaver Fur Hat].
From about 1550 until 1850, felt hats were fashionable in much of Europe and the felt hat industry became the driving force behind the fur trade. By the late 1500's, the beaver was extinct in western Europe and was close to extinction in Scandinavia and Russia. The North American fur trade became a new source and kept the fashion going for another 200 years.
Alex

"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)
New No, he's thinking sea-otter

Russian sea-otter hunters ventured as far south as [link|http://www.parks.sonoma.net/rosshist.html|Fort Ross], in what is now California, about 50 miles north of present-day San Francisco.

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Annihilation of the sea-otter population has had resonance effects on sea urchins, abalone (another food of the urchins IIRC, and/or otters), shark (predators of otters, particularly great whites), and kelp.

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The sea otter population has rebounded again, but is based on a very narrow genetic baseline. It's currenlty under threat from infection, apparently carried by cat feces washed into coastal waters. With the return of the otter, great white sightings have also increased.

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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
New otter get more beaver
"You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete
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     Whaling killed the kelp. - (Silverlock) - (6)
         First Springer is a fsckwit first class - (boxley) - (5)
             I'd been wondering about that - (Silverlock) - (4)
                 No, you're thinking beaver! - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
                     No, he's thinking sea-otter - (kmself)
                     <insert joke here> -NT - (Silverlock) - (1)
                         otter get more beaver -NT - (boxley)

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