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Post #11,900 by deSitter 10/5/01 8:47:37 AM Reply	You Missed It BB has to be the most despised baseball player (by other players that is) since Ty Cobb. He's a lazy profiling egotistical bum, a disgrace to his hustling father (former Giant Bobby Bonds) and to the game. The Astros humiliated him by walking him eight times deliberately and then throwing him a batting practice fastball. The Houston catcher went to the mound just before Bonds came to the plate and no doubt said something like "give this asshole a lollipop and get him the hell out of here". Hopefully the Dodgers will throw at his head every time he bats. I would. One nice thing - the record was taken from the game's other lazy egotisical profiling bum, McGwire (God I can't stand that jerk). BTW Sammy Sosa has back-to-back-to-back 60 HR seasons - but the ball ain't juiced, naw....nevertheless a real record for a stand-up guy. The Cardinals are now in 1st place alone going into the weekend for 3 with Houston. They were 8 back as late as mid-August. What a run! The '64 Cardinals did the same thing to the Phillies before beating the Yanks in the WS. The Braves continue to amaze by winning clutch games, just when you think they are done. The Seattle Mariners have 114 wins, tying the 1998 Yankees for the most wins in history. Amazing. Who needs A-Rod and Junior?
Post #11,925 by Yendor 10/5/01 11:51:22 AM Reply	Nay, I say. BTW Sammy Sosa has back-to-back-to-back 60 HR seasons - but the ball ain't juiced, naw....nevertheless a real record for a stand-up guy. No...Sosa hit 60 in '98 (66), '99 (63), and '01 (61 and counting). In each of those three seasons, he didn't even win the NL home run title, much less the MLB home run title (barring 10+ home runs this weekend). And that's despite having more home runs in all three years (assuming one more this weekend) than had ever been hit previously in MLB history. He apparently took 2000 off from hitting home runs. He only hit 50 last year -- but won the NL home run title. Go figure. The Seattle Mariners have 114 wins, tying the 1998 Yankees for the most wins in history. Amazing. Who needs A-Rod and Junior? 1906 Chicago Cubs. 116-36. They've tied the AL mark, but not the MLB mark yet. Still a few games to go. -YendorMike "The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by the skeptics or the cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need people who dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
Post #11,928 by Fearless Freep 10/5/01 12:11:10 PM Reply	Nay part II Barry has broken most if not all of Bobby Bond's records and he (Bobby) was being interviewed during the SF/SP series recently talking about how proud he was that Barry was breaking his records. Barry hasn't disgraced his father but honored him in the best way possible; going on to exceed his achievements Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #11,931 by bepatient 10/5/01 12:21:38 PM Reply	Like him or not.. ..he's still one of the top ten players to ever have played the game. Look at the stats. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #11,934 by Fearless Freep 10/5/01 12:27:06 PM Reply	Yup! Like him? I don't like him or dislike him...I don't even know him. I respect him as a player because he is one of the greats. Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #11,974 by deSitter 10/5/01 3:20:49 PM Reply	Even His Teammates Can't Stand Him The name of the game in baseball is hustle - everyone who has ever played has this drilled into his head constantly. Bonds does not hustle. Ever. Being "a great" is a hell of a lot more than numbers. True, his talent is incredible, but IMO that's canceled by his lousy attitude. OTOH I can completely respect someone like Ty Cobb, a nasty SOB, or Pete Rose, who bet on games. They played 110% all the time, in every game. Rose would sprint to 1st after a walk. It was exhilirating to watch him play.
Post #12,024 by bepatient 10/5/01 8:43:56 PM Reply	Never seen... Bonds tank a play. Never. The problem with talent like his is that it makes everything he does look easy. Watch Robby Alomar sometime. Then watch another 2nd baseman. Alomar can make plays on balls that no other 2nd baseman could even reach...but he does it so easily it looks like slow motion. Sure Bonds is an arrogant SOB. Almost every marquis athlete in his generation is an arrogant SOB. It seems to come with the territory in modern sport. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #12,049 by deSitter 10/6/01 3:56:16 AM Reply	No Fernando Vina. Chipper Jones. Brian Jordan. Derek Jeter. David Justice. Need I say more?
Post #12,092 by Ashton 10/6/01 7:04:51 PM Reply	Wondering re such 'talents'.. how they come about. Idiot savant? Yes, that's an extreme case, but - is it possible that many sports luminaries ('hero' can never again be applied to such dilettantes, we see - that much changed on 9/11) -- are simply deficient in the normal social sensibilities? One-note Johnnys (or Barrys) and this happens to be that one note? Remember, lotsa folks in school never made even the mediocre cliques, were always awkward. Many, later of course - found out how utterly mindless, ovine and silly were those cliques: and got some moxie on their own.. But some never quite get the hang of homo-sap duplicity, glad-handing and other deceptions. Is that enough reason to maybe give the Bonds of the world (and the Dimaggios?) a bit of a break - even some sympathy, perhaps? Ashton
Post #11,978 by deSitter 10/5/01 3:30:06 PM Reply	Stand Corrected Wasn't that the last Cubs team to win a series? :) (1945? 1938? can't remember) BTW see these stats - no, the ball ain't juiced, not at all... [link\|http://espn.go.com/mlb/profiles/stats/batting/4344.html\|Sosa] [link\|http://espn.go.com/mlb/profiles/stats/batting/4305.html\|Junior] [link\|http://espn.go.com/mlb/profiles/stats/batting/3866.html\|Big Mac] [link\|http://espn.go.com/mlb/profiles/stats/batting/3918.html\|Bonds]
Post #12,031 by wharris2 10/5/01 10:15:52 PM Reply	Cubs came close in '84 And if they'd had lights for nighttime baseball, they might have made it. Instead, they had to play 3 games in San Diego because they didn't have lights. They'd have done better than the Padres in that year's world series, IMO. (laughing) but of course anyone can have opinions on any sports event. Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #12,240 by wharris2 10/8/01 12:28:16 PM Reply	scratching head about cubs 1906 Chicago Cubs. 116-36. They've tied the AL mark, but not the MLB mark yet. Still a few games to go. I thought the Cubs had 120 wins, but I must have mis-remembered that as finishing 20 games ahead of the Giants. Still, as impressive as the Mariners fared in this now-highpaying-sport, with a damn lowpaying team, the Cubs' 152-game record remains better. Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)

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