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Post #11,520
by cforde
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10/3/01 2:45:51 PM
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New as I see it...
the significance is that in both synagogues and churches people worship the same God. (Ignoring for the moment that Jews don't accept Christ. or the Holy Spirit?) But in mosques people worship a different God. So Bush is advocating idolatry, betraying the Christian foundation of the USA.
Have fun,
Carl Forde
Post #11,526
by rsf
10/3/01 2:58:48 PM
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New Re: as I see it...
AFAIK, Jews, Christian, and Muslims worship the same God. Muslims recognize the Old Testament prophets and Jesus as a prophet (not the Messiah).
Ray
Post #11,781
by cforde
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10/4/01 1:56:53 PM
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New I don't see that
from [link|http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/tawheed/conceptofgod.html|Who is Allah?]

Islam rejects characterizing God in any human form or depicting Him as favoring certain individuals or nations on the basis of wealth, power or race. He created the human beings as equals. They may distinguish themselves and get His favor through virtue and piety only.

The concept that God rested in the seventh day of creation, that God wrestled with one of His soldiers, that God is an envious plotter against mankind, or that God is incarnate in any human being are considered blasphemy from the Islamic point of view.

This directly conflicts with the Jewish and Christian God who created man in his own image. It directly conflicts with the Christian view of Jesus who is God as man (wholy God and wholy human).

Have fun,
Carl Forde
Post #11,787
by rsf
10/4/01 2:09:57 PM
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New Re: I don't see that
Maybe I wasn't clear enough but what I meant was that Muslims believe that we Jews and Christians are worshipping God (their god) but we completely mis-understand who He is and what we are in relationship to Him. But it is certain that all three religions agree that there is only one true God and we are all praying to Him.

Compare this to other god based religions like Hinduism. I'm sure Muslims, as well as Jews and Christians, would say that the Hindu gods do not exist. Period.
Ray
Post #11,571
by kmself
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10/3/01 5:15:47 PM
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New Nope, all worship the same God
...and I appreciate the attention.
--
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
Post #11,572
by pwhysall
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10/3/01 5:16:44 PM
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New Doesn't help, then...
...that I lack belief in you.

Peter
Shill For Hire
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #11,745
by CRConrad
10/4/01 11:22:09 AM
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New It's so you don't know whether to laugh or to cry...
     Why America Has Already Lost the War - (Fearless Freep) - (40) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:17:25 PM EDT
         Typical racist claptrap. - (inthane-chan) - (25) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:32:11 PM EDT
             Oh, knock it off. - (marlowe) - (17) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:34:03 PM EDT
                 You misunderstand my position. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:41:00 PM EDT
                 How do you define success? - (ChrisR) - (14) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:52:29 PM EDT
                     It's not a war on terrorists. - (marlowe) - (13) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:13:24 PM EDT
                         Fine. - (inthane-chan) - (7) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:19:02 PM EDT
                             Did that happen recently? - (rsf) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:26:21 PM EDT
                                 Thought that was pretty much everybody against everybody... - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:30:16 PM EDT
                             Gawd, you're so blind. - (marlowe) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:38:36 PM EDT
                                 Yes. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:47:45 PM EDT
                                     Small group of people? - (marlowe) - Oct. 3, 2001, 11:23:02 PM EDT
                             Too far - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2001, 02:01:22 PM EDT
                                 Go back and read what I said again... - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 4, 2001, 02:21:49 PM EDT
                         They want it to be a holy war - (Steven A S) - (4) - Oct. 4, 2001, 10:54:30 AM EDT
                             Those other Islamic nations? - (marlowe) - (3) - Oct. 4, 2001, 11:21:20 AM EDT
                                 whether or not we can count them as allies - (Steven A S) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2001, 11:46:54 AM EDT
                                     Fine. But let's watch our backs. (nomsg) -NT - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2001, 02:25:07 PM EDT
                                         That goes without saying -NT - (Steven A S) - Oct. 4, 2001, 04:52:49 PM EDT
                 A swing and a miss... - (jb4) - Oct. 3, 2001, 06:36:38 PM EDT
             as I see it... - (cforde) - (6) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:45:51 PM EDT
                 Re: as I see it... - (rsf) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:58:48 PM EDT
                     I don't see that - (cforde) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2001, 01:56:53 PM EDT
                         Re: I don't see that - (rsf) - Oct. 4, 2001, 02:09:57 PM EDT
                 Nope, all worship the same God - (kmself) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 05:15:47 PM EDT
                     Doesn't help, then... - (pwhysall) - Oct. 3, 2001, 05:16:44 PM EDT
                 It's so you don't know whether to laugh or to cry... -NT - (CRConrad) - Oct. 4, 2001, 11:22:09 AM EDT
         Follow up - (link is timing out...growlf) - (Simon_Jester) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:41:24 PM EDT
         Okay, I've read it.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:57:43 PM EDT
             Me, Occured Same Suspicion About Day 2... -NT - (CRConrad) - Oct. 4, 2001, 11:22:39 AM EDT
         I have not personally lost a family member yet - (boxley) - (9) - Oct. 3, 2001, 03:03:20 PM EDT
             Worst possible course of action - (JayMehaffey) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2001, 03:56:39 PM EDT
                 that was my point, MAD2 they need to understand that their - (boxley) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:05:55 PM EDT
                     Won't work - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 09:50:37 PM EDT
                         whats yer point? - (boxley) - Oct. 3, 2001, 11:29:57 PM EDT
             We must not sink to their level. - (marlowe) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:31:05 PM EDT
                 How do you reconcile that with... - (inthane-chan) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:49:38 PM EDT
                     In practise it may amount to the same thing. Or not. - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 06:42:46 PM EDT
                         If it does come to that... - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 3, 2001, 08:01:25 PM EDT
             "Wrongly"? I think they got that "link" all right, at least. -NT - (CRConrad) - Oct. 4, 2001, 11:23:19 AM EDT
         Typical - (JayMehaffey) - Oct. 3, 2001, 03:41:44 PM EDT

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