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Was that a surrender or a .. Gah !?__:-\ufffd
Post #115,005
by
Ashton
8/22/03 7:48:04 PM
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Was that a surrender or a .. Gah !?__:-\ufffd
Post #115,021
by
admin
8/22/03 9:55:43 PM
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It was an attempt at illogic
... to show the illogic of his position.
So I guess it was a "Gah". ;-)
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
The Pledge of Allegiance is no longer required in schools
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orion
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- (138)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 09:46:32 AM EDT
Pledge of Allegiance no longer required?
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rcareaga
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- (3)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 09:58:54 AM EDT
Evidence
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orion
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- (2)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 02:58:50 PM EDT
Re: Evidence
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rcareaga
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- (1)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 04:47:57 PM EDT
Is this the news forum?
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orion
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- Aug. 20, 2003, 05:14:01 PM EDT
Separation of Church and State.
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pwhysall
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- (128)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 10:08:57 AM EDT
It is not "separation"...
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bepatient
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- (127)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 01:11:42 PM EDT
I'll beg to differ.
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inthane-chan
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- (24)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 03:30:58 PM EDT
Beg all you like.
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bepatient
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- (23)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 03:58:10 PM EDT
That's not the point.
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inthane-chan
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- (19)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 04:07:47 PM EDT
No I got it.
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bepatient
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- Aug. 20, 2003, 04:14:53 PM EDT
However, banning is exactly what is happening
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bluke
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- (17)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 04:25:40 AM EDT
Re: However, banning is exactly what is happening
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JayMehaffey
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- (16)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:44:00 PM EDT
well stated
-NT
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deSitter
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:45:14 PM EDT
Disagree completely.
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Steve Lowe
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- (12)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:58:42 PM EDT
Correct...
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bepatient
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- (6)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 01:11:50 PM EDT
Threat to long-term survival.
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Ashton
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- (5)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 03:51:03 PM EDT
So who decides on what proper 'indoctrination' is?
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Steve Lowe
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 04:28:19 PM EDT
Re: So who decides on what proper 'indoctrination' is?
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:29:29 AM EDT
Dear me...
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bepatient
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- (2)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 08:02:30 AM EDT
An anticipated Bowdlerization. Let me Econ- it for ya:
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Ashton
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- (1)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 06:41:38 PM EDT
Not necessary...
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bepatient
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 07:45:03 PM EDT
Doesn't have to be a specific religion
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JayMehaffey
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- (4)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 02:14:50 PM EDT
the constitution states ...
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bluke
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- (3)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 04:55:27 PM EDT
Well, up here
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jake123
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 06:12:07 PM EDT
Thats the common translation now bluke...
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bepatient
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- (1)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 08:10:37 AM EDT
I agree with that wording
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 07:36:27 PM EDT
Not true
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bluke
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 04:52:14 PM EDT
I'm pretty much with you on that
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jake123
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 06:14:48 PM EDT
Folie \ufffd deux.. folie \ufffd millon - Again!?
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Ashton
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- (2)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 06:35:37 PM EDT
Re: Folie \ufffd deux.. folie \ufffd millon - Again!?
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bepatient
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 08:20:23 AM EDT
In context of peer (and teacher) pressure and required
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Ashton
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:51:45 AM EDT
Operative word
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Silverlock
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- (98)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 03:45:58 PM EDT
Agreed
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bepatient
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- (97)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 04:07:37 PM EDT
Nit picking
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Silverlock
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- (95)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 04:15:50 PM EDT
No I didn't miss it.
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bepatient
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- (94)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 04:28:27 PM EDT
(Op iff p)
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FuManChu
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- Aug. 20, 2003, 05:25:30 PM EDT
I don't think I could disagree more
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Silverlock
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- (92)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 10:40:25 AM EDT
Well we will disagree entirely here.
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bepatient
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- (35)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 10:51:43 AM EDT
No it isn't.
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pwhysall
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- (34)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:17:23 AM EDT
No that not what he said.
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bepatient
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- (33)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:28:33 AM EDT
Re: No that not what he said.
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pwhysall
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:31:13 AM EDT
Its not...
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bepatient
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- (24)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:49:23 AM EDT
Re: Its not...
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pwhysall
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:59:25 AM EDT
Now we see...
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bepatient
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- (9)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:29:45 PM EDT
Say it ain't so.
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pwhysall
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- (8)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 04:53:30 PM EDT
Nazis killed people
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bluke
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- (3)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:03:39 PM EDT
Got link?
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Silverlock
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- (2)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:54:54 PM EDT
OT: while looking for link, found this:
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Arkadiy
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- (1)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 10:13:39 AM EDT
I don't quite grok his comment,
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 07:04:37 PM EDT
I want the tax dollars...
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bepatient
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- (3)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 08:15:30 AM EDT
I find it ironic...
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admin
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- (2)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 09:36:28 AM EDT
Aye Cap'n...there's the rub.
-NT
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bepatient
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 09:44:10 AM EDT
That is ever the danger of the uninformed literal mind.
-NT
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 07:29:47 PM EDT
You are being misdirected
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mhuber
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- (11)
- Aug. 24, 2003, 02:36:17 AM EDT
At Last:___The CRUX of the matter!
-NT
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Ashton
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 04:34:00 PM EDT
You didn't know my chess coach. ;)
-NT
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inthane-chan
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 07:08:47 PM EDT
Exactly
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Silverlock
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 11:07:35 PM EDT
Oh no, you don't.
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admin
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- (4)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 11:11:26 PM EDT
Try this word
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Silverlock
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- (3)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 11:13:35 PM EDT
Try this one:
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admin
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- (2)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 11:16:14 PM EDT
Response noted
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Silverlock
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- (1)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 11:27:30 PM EDT
Substantively different in kind
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admin
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 11:33:01 PM EDT
Oy shift this crap into politics
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boxley
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- (2)
- Aug. 26, 2003, 09:26:49 PM EDT
That would be unconstitutional ;-)
-NT
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bepatient
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- (1)
- Aug. 27, 2003, 06:56:57 AM EDT
Spoken like a Strict deConstructionist. . .
-NT
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Ashton
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- Aug. 27, 2003, 03:49:24 PM EDT
It is not the function of government at all.
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Ashton
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:13:12 PM EDT
Get it straight
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Silverlock
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- (5)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:58:15 AM EDT
You've entirely missed the point of church-state separation
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deSitter
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- (4)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:11:02 PM EDT
Re: You've entirely missed the point of church-state separat
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Ashton
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:27:52 PM EDT
Quibble about liberalism
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jake123
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 06:28:33 PM EDT
yes
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deSitter
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 07:13:48 PM EDT
A great Stine cartoon has graced my reefer for ages
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:47:11 AM EDT
Good News Club v Milford Central Schools (1998)
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Another Scott
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:59:39 AM EDT
Can "Anti-Creationism Alliance" meet in the school gym?
-NT
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Arkadiy
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- (40)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:28:29 AM EDT
Why not.
-NT
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bepatient
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 11:28:56 AM EDT
I know your answer
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Arkadiy
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:16:18 PM EDT
It already does
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Silverlock
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- (6)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:20:15 PM EDT
So, it's OK to advance the cause of Atheism on Govt property
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Arkadiy
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- (5)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 01:35:14 PM EDT
Not my point at all
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Silverlock
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- (3)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 01:49:56 PM EDT
Sorry.
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Arkadiy
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- (2)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 02:03:29 PM EDT
Which question?
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Silverlock
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 03:02:19 PM EDT
Both, please?
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Arkadiy
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 10:05:34 AM EDT
Umm we've had the 'A-theism' discussion several times
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:55:21 AM EDT
Here's where I stand.
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inthane-chan
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- (30)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 12:42:44 PM EDT
Only the very best representatives
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Arkadiy
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 01:37:48 PM EDT
Britney Spears.
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pwhysall
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 04:58:10 PM EDT
Science is religion
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jake123
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 06:35:39 PM EDT
Where I disagree with you
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Silverlock
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- (26)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 09:52:23 PM EDT
Discrimination
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bluke
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- (24)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 03:35:10 AM EDT
you answer your own question
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Silverlock
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- (23)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 11:54:00 AM EDT
Perversion of the Constitution.
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admin
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- (22)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:12:36 PM EDT
See my response to Beep
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Silverlock
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- (21)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:35:21 PM EDT
Which part of it?
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admin
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- (20)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:47:25 PM EDT
I don't agree
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Silverlock
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- (19)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:58:11 PM EDT
And its discriminatory.
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bepatient
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:04:15 PM EDT
Don't see how you can call that logical.
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admin
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- (15)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:28:16 PM EDT
Argument from authority
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Silverlock
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- (14)
- Aug. 24, 2003, 09:18:29 AM EDT
Wrong. Lame attempt at misdirection.
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admin
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- (13)
- Aug. 24, 2003, 09:37:20 AM EDT
The law is in regards to faith.
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Silverlock
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- (12)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 10:26:49 AM EDT
Doesn't matter what the law is about.
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admin
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- (11)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 10:48:16 AM EDT
Ok
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Silverlock
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- (10)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 11:58:23 AM EDT
Heh heh...
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bepatient
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- (1)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 12:07:51 PM EDT
Braap
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Silverlock
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 12:11:57 PM EDT
...
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admin
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 12:11:49 PM EDT
I agree with your point, Don.
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a6l6e6x
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- (6)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 12:47:07 PM EDT
Er... *legal* groups.
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admin
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- (3)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 01:16:21 PM EDT
But ritual animal sacrifice is perfectly legal.
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a6l6e6x
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- (2)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 02:34:16 PM EDT
Cool...
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bepatient
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 02:38:18 PM EDT
Goes in same category as the rest of the legal groups then.
-NT
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admin
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 02:47:07 PM EDT
And I know those...
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bepatient
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- (1)
- Aug. 25, 2003, 01:25:47 PM EDT
OK for just now: perhaps made illegal____just after WW-III?
-NT
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Ashton
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- Aug. 25, 2003, 04:00:14 PM EDT
Um, no . Current case law says the opposite
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mhuber
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- (1)
- Aug. 24, 2003, 02:44:21 AM EDT
Good, that's how it should be.
-NT
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admin
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- Aug. 24, 2003, 09:37:58 AM EDT
It seems to have come to 'about that', no?
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 03:44:23 AM EDT
Some serious disagreement
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jake123
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- (14)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 06:25:54 PM EDT
No
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Silverlock
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- (13)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 10:09:41 PM EDT
That is very nice
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bluke
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- (12)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:26:33 AM EDT
Its outright prejudicial..
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bepatient
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- (11)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 08:18:10 AM EDT
You actually believe that?
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Silverlock
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- (10)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:29:33 PM EDT
Admin stated the views adequately above.
-NT
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bepatient
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:58:19 PM EDT
Amtrack is federally subsidized
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Arkadiy
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- (3)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 12:59:28 PM EDT
He wants his money back ;-)
-NT
- (
bepatient
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:04:57 PM EDT
Silly, but it does raise an interesting point..
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hnick
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- (1)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:21:59 PM EDT
Exactly. The motivation should be moot.
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admin
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 01:30:36 PM EDT
Riding in the back of the bus
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jake123
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- (4)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 02:35:20 PM EDT
Where do you draw the line?
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Silverlock
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- (3)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 04:28:32 PM EDT
Re: Where do you draw the line?
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admin
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- (2)
- Aug. 22, 2003, 05:10:33 PM EDT
Was that a surrender or a .. Gah !?__:-\ufffd
-NT
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Ashton
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 07:48:04 PM EDT
It was an attempt at illogic
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admin
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- Aug. 22, 2003, 09:55:43 PM EDT
Declared unconstitutional?
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mhuber
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- Aug. 24, 2003, 02:23:07 AM EDT
No free exercise is being touched here
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JayMehaffey
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- (2)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 08:21:54 PM EDT
Thats not at issue...
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bepatient
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2003, 08:22:01 AM EDT
Good.
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pwhysall
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- Aug. 21, 2003, 08:30:24 AM EDT
2 different issues
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JayMehaffey
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- (3)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 02:39:45 PM EDT
Must disagree with the "remedy". Again.
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Ashton
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- (2)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 07:03:52 PM EDT
In theory yes
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JayMehaffey
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- (1)
- Aug. 20, 2003, 08:04:57 PM EDT
Then others' childhood experience was quite different from
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Ashton
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- Aug. 20, 2003, 09:22:47 PM EDT
Even in Indiana - it is not required.
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mmoffitt
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- Aug. 27, 2003, 05:24:18 PM EDT
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