Colonial date again? What capital is yellow knife :-)

Post #114,638 by boxley 8/20/03 7:37:18 PM Reply	Colonial date again? What capital is yellow knife :-) and what year did the colonists turn it over :-) stones, glass houses etc. hanx, bill America, Love it or give it back questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #114,646 by jake123 8/20/03 7:59:43 PM Reply	Not the point I didn't make the claim that fifty years old was too old to matter. That's not my claim at all. I'm only pointing out the inconsistency in supporting a nearly 2K year old claim for land whilst ignoring an inconvenient claim for war crimes. His words to the contrary, Bluke seems to agree; he doesn't seem to think that fifty years is too long to bring up Xtian atrocities... only Jewish ones, for some reason I can't quite fathom. And then there's the attempt to deflect the conversation once he realised his essential logical problem... "don't look at us! Look at them! That's a lot worse than us!" Besides, while Nunavut was formed in the late eighties, in practical fact the membership and staffing of the former NWT government has been largely Innu for many years before that. Of course, the extension to their authority within Nunavut (as opposed to a traditional Canadian territory like the rest of NWT and The Yukon) is not to be taken lightly; it does represent a real advance to their ability to run their own affairs. There have been some growing pains... part of the problem is the essential one that the tax base has been vanishingly small compared to the expenses; do you have any idea how much it costs to attempt to supply sanitation services in a place where the ground is frozen year-round? However, now that the diamond mines up there are beginning to come on line, I expect that Nunavut's fiscal situation is going to improve markedly. A similar situation exists for most of the Cree villages in Le Grand Nord du Québec; the money is provincial, but the administration is Cree. This is a good thing; you can have nothing remotely resembling a typeical Western-style capitalist economy in permafrost country. It's hard to be profitable when you dare not turn your truck off in winter for fear the gas will freeze in the fuel line. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #114,647 by boxley 8/20/03 8:02:34 PM Reply	On Profits yes it is hard to take profits from the North, thats why Hydro Quebec doesnt share any of the money they make from the James Bay project. Same reason none of the Oil in the Makenzie Delta is shared with the locals. Yup, no money to be made, right then about this Parrot Ive got for sale. thanx, bill America, Love it or give it back questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #114,649 by jake123 8/20/03 8:08:05 PM Reply	Hey, you still don't get the point I'm making the idea of a consumer supported economy up there doesn't work nearly as well; you have to make SO much more money just to cover your basic costs because they are many times higher than they are in nice temperate climes like we've got down here. Oh, yeah... Hydro Quebec actually does share money from James Bay... just not enough, according to the Cree. Couldn't tell you about Mackenzie River Delta oil, though... prolly a back room deal from the Bad Old Days. Fortunately, over the course of the last twenty years it's become pretty clear that the Bad Old Days are over; witness the very large chunk of ownership of diamond mining local tribes are getting up there. The big growth industry right now is diamond cutting; the Innu want to do the cutting because that's the step with the most value-add. The good part? They have enough ownership clout to make it happen once they get enough guys schooled in how it's done. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #114,654 by boxley 8/20/03 10:01:36 PM Reply	point !=missed even though it costs a boatload of cash to provide services up there, that boatload is less than the profits removed every day from that area by Canadian and multinational companies with Canadian Government blessing. Back wages are in order dont you think? thanx, bill America, Love it or give it back questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #114,655 by jake123 8/20/03 10:04:23 PM Reply	Are they in order for the descendents of black slaves in the US? --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #114,657 by boxley 8/20/03 10:10:15 PM Reply	Nope, to the still living up until emancipation If you were born in the last 10 years, entitled thanx, bill America, Love it or give it back questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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