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Post #114,560
by bepatient
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8/20/03 12:16:53 PM
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New Most of the current violence...
...centers around land...taken by force...and being "settled" by Jews. It was not land granted by the original charter nor is it land granted to them by God since the dawn of recorded civilization. The 1947 charter had the strip and included territories as land that was to become an independent arab state.

I forgot that the other colonial power in the region is the US...but they are occupied on the other coast at the moment.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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Post #114,686
by bluke
8/21/03 3:04:53 AM
8/21/03 10:19:28 AM
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New Not correct
The 1947 resolution was rejected by the Arabs and in any case was only advisory. In fact the only international agreement with any standing regarding the West Bank and Gaza is the 1922 San Remo conference agreement which gives the Jews the explicit permission to settle all over Palestine including the West Bank and Gaza. See my post [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=114717|here] for some links relating to this.
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Post #114,881
by static
8/22/03 6:48:36 AM
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New Also
There are reasonable grounds that Britain and Franch double-crossed the Arabs in 1947/8.

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.
     Why are Africa and the Middle East in such bad shape? - (bluke) - (57) - Aug. 20, 2003, 03:11:05 AM EDT
         Nicely done. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Aug. 20, 2003, 03:33:13 AM EDT
             So you explain Africa ... - (bluke) - (4) - Aug. 20, 2003, 03:55:07 AM EDT
                 Re: So you explain Africa ... - (pwhysall) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2003, 07:17:18 AM EDT
                     So, the fact that the West ... - (bluke) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2003, 07:22:13 AM EDT
                         Re: So, the fact that the West ... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2003, 07:40:53 AM EDT
                             in a sense the pigdogs *did* - (rcareaga) - Aug. 20, 2003, 09:50:30 AM EDT
         Because you are superstitious children - (deSitter) - (22) - Aug. 20, 2003, 03:34:39 AM EDT
             In other words ... - (bluke) - (21) - Aug. 20, 2003, 03:57:06 AM EDT
                 I wouldn't rule out the correlation - (deSitter) - (20) - Aug. 20, 2003, 04:08:51 AM EDT
                     When did the West really get the message? - (bluke) - (19) - Aug. 20, 2003, 04:29:59 AM EDT
                         The message was that of Jesus - (deSitter) - (18) - Aug. 20, 2003, 04:42:26 AM EDT
                             Tell me when it matured - (bluke) - (13) - Aug. 20, 2003, 04:48:02 AM EDT
                                 7/4/1776 -NT - (deSitter) - (11) - Aug. 20, 2003, 04:48:26 AM EDT
                                     When blacks were slaves??? - (bluke) - (10) - Aug. 20, 2003, 05:00:41 AM EDT
                                         Re: When blacks were slaves??? - (deSitter) - (5) - Aug. 20, 2003, 05:00:57 AM EDT
                                             If I understand you right - (bluke) - Aug. 20, 2003, 05:32:34 AM EDT
                                             Ah, they were shipping slaves because they vere Semitic. - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2003, 09:46:56 AM EDT
                                                 Re: Ah, they were shipping slaves because they vere Semitic. - (deSitter) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2003, 01:38:48 PM EDT
                                                     shun -NT - (Arkadiy) - Aug. 20, 2003, 02:35:57 PM EDT
                                                 He's not antisemitic, he's just on a roll - (boxley) - Aug. 20, 2003, 07:54:34 PM EDT
                                         I would choose Today's America - (orion) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2003, 09:49:46 AM EDT
                                             I would hope that most people here would - (bluke) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2003, 10:50:01 AM EDT
                                                 18th century America - (rcareaga) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2003, 11:26:26 AM EDT
                                                     re your caveat.. - (Ashton) - Aug. 21, 2003, 04:22:52 AM EDT
                                 The Pledge of Allegiance is no longer required in schools (new thread) - (orion) - Aug. 20, 2003, 09:46:32 AM EDT
                             Love thy neighbor as thyself is not Jesus but the Bible -NT - (bluke) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2003, 04:50:39 AM EDT
                                 Wrong -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2003, 05:04:39 AM EDT
                                     Leviticus 19:18 - (bluke) - Aug. 20, 2003, 05:23:46 AM EDT
                             Including 3/5ths of all Nigra's? -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 20, 2003, 07:49:59 PM EDT
         Minor nit... - (bepatient) - (25) - Aug. 20, 2003, 08:10:16 AM EDT
             How is Israel a colonial power? - (bluke) - (13) - Aug. 20, 2003, 09:01:51 AM EDT
                 Fifty years vs. nineteen hundred and thirty years - (jake123) - (9) - Aug. 20, 2003, 10:00:51 AM EDT
                     Not really - (bluke) - (8) - Aug. 20, 2003, 10:42:16 AM EDT
                         So why don't they stop them coming in? - (jake123) - (7) - Aug. 20, 2003, 12:07:01 PM EDT
                             Because the US and the EU want them to let them in - (bluke) - (6) - Aug. 21, 2003, 02:53:30 AM EDT
                                 Many countries have told the US to go stuff themselves - (jake123) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2003, 02:22:34 PM EDT
                                     There certainly is - (bluke) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2003, 04:40:23 PM EDT
                                         Why are the resolutions being passed? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2003, 05:09:42 PM EDT
                                             For one, anti-smeitism definately plays a role - (bluke) - Aug. 22, 2003, 12:22:56 AM EDT
                                 Cough...no argument there - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2003, 09:58:27 PM EDT
                                     No it's not - (bluke) - Aug. 21, 2003, 11:00:41 PM EDT
                 Most of the current violence... - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2003, 12:16:53 PM EDT
                     Not correct - (bluke) - Aug. 21, 2003, 10:19:28 AM EDT
                     Also - (static) - Aug. 22, 2003, 06:48:36 AM EDT
             Of course, blame the Jews - (bluke) - (8) - Aug. 20, 2003, 08:57:36 AM EDT
                 Lesse... - (bepatient) - (7) - Aug. 20, 2003, 12:30:32 PM EDT
                     Barak offered more at Camp David in 2000 ... - (bluke) - (6) - Aug. 21, 2003, 03:02:08 AM EDT
                         Apparently they do. - (bepatient) - (5) - Aug. 21, 2003, 08:32:07 AM EDT
                             Where was that demand from 1948-1967? - (bluke) - (4) - Aug. 21, 2003, 10:17:12 AM EDT
                                 Prior to 1967 - (bepatient) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2003, 11:13:30 AM EDT
                                     {cackle} Arabs must be slow.. in slogan-building - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2003, 12:44:28 PM EDT
                                         That would be a problem. - (bepatient) - Aug. 21, 2003, 01:40:16 PM EDT
                                     Wait, you mean the Palestinians are just Arabs - (bluke) - Aug. 21, 2003, 04:46:10 PM EDT
             If Israel did not exist, - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2003, 09:50:47 AM EDT
                 It's not nice - (Ashton) - Aug. 21, 2003, 04:30:02 AM EDT
         Re: Why are Africa and the Middle East in such bad shape? - (JvlivsCaesar) - (1) - Jan. 11, 2005, 07:54:07 PM EST
             surviving in the arctic requires co-operation - (daemon) - Jan. 11, 2005, 08:01:55 PM EST

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