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New So why don't they stop them coming in?
Or is the fact that the US puts pressure on considering that the US gives more than a billion a year to Israel have a lot more to do with it?

What would the economy in Israel be like without foreign aid and Palestinian labour?
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New Because the US and the EU want them to let them in
The US influence is not really an issue of money. The money that the US gives to Israel is a very small percentage of the budget and in fact most if it has to be spent in the US. The primary benificiary of the aid money are US arms manufacturers. The US has tremendous influence because of it's role as the sole superpower in the world.
New Many countries have told the US to go stuff themselves
there's no reason Israel need be any different.
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New There certainly is
There is no other country that is under attack at the UN like Israel. I forget the number, buit a huge percentage of UN resolutions are against Israel. Israel needs the US on the security council.
New Why are the resolutions being passed?
Ask yourselves that. And "wah wah we're Jewish so everyone hates us the bastard nazi thugs!" isn't the answer.


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New For one, anti-smeitism definately plays a role
secondly there are 22 Arab countries, a whole bunch of non-Arab muslim countries, and a whole bunch of countries dependent on Arab oil.

Whatever you think about Israel it should be clear to any thinking person that Israel is not the problem in the world. Yet from the number of UN resolutions it certainly looks that way. Even Kofi Anan has admitted that the UN has been anit-Israel.
The 2002 Durban Anti-RAcism conference is a perfect example. Israel is clearly not the most racist country in the world and neither is it a big source of racism, yet Israel was the focus of the conference, what is your explanation?
Expand Edited by bluke Aug. 22, 2003, 12:22:56 AM EDT
New Cough...no argument there

The money that the US gives to Israel is a very small percentage of the budget and in fact most if it has to be spent in the US. The primary benificiary of the aid money are US arms manufacturers.


Best possible way for US Politicians to get graft to Defense Contractors - give US billions to another country and then demand that other country spend said billions buying US Defense contracts.

Quick question - is it good for Israel in the long run?

I know it's not good for the US in the long run.
New No it's not
and a number of prominent people in Israel have said it. However, it is hard to implement.
     Why are Africa and the Middle East in such bad shape? - (bluke) - (57)
         Nicely done. - (pwhysall) - (5)
             So you explain Africa ... - (bluke) - (4)
                 Re: So you explain Africa ... - (pwhysall) - (3)
                     So, the fact that the West ... - (bluke) - (2)
                         Re: So, the fact that the West ... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             in a sense the pigdogs *did* - (rcareaga)
         Because you are superstitious children - (deSitter) - (22)
             In other words ... - (bluke) - (21)
                 I wouldn't rule out the correlation - (deSitter) - (20)
                     When did the West really get the message? - (bluke) - (19)
                         The message was that of Jesus - (deSitter) - (18)
                             Tell me when it matured - (bluke) - (13)
                                 7/4/1776 -NT - (deSitter) - (11)
                                     When blacks were slaves??? - (bluke) - (10)
                                         Re: When blacks were slaves??? - (deSitter) - (5)
                                             If I understand you right - (bluke)
                                             Ah, they were shipping slaves because they vere Semitic. - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                                 Re: Ah, they were shipping slaves because they vere Semitic. - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                     shun -NT - (Arkadiy)
                                                 He's not antisemitic, he's just on a roll - (boxley)
                                         I would choose Today's America - (orion) - (3)
                                             I would hope that most people here would - (bluke) - (2)
                                                 18th century America - (rcareaga) - (1)
                                                     re your caveat.. - (Ashton)
                                 The Pledge of Allegiance is no longer required in schools (new thread) - (orion)
                             Love thy neighbor as thyself is not Jesus but the Bible -NT - (bluke) - (2)
                                 Wrong -NT - (deSitter) - (1)
                                     Leviticus 19:18 - (bluke)
                             Including 3/5ths of all Nigra's? -NT - (boxley)
         Minor nit... - (bepatient) - (25)
             How is Israel a colonial power? - (bluke) - (13)
                 Fifty years vs. nineteen hundred and thirty years - (jake123) - (9)
                     Not really - (bluke) - (8)
                         So why don't they stop them coming in? - (jake123) - (7)
                             Because the US and the EU want them to let them in - (bluke) - (6)
                                 Many countries have told the US to go stuff themselves - (jake123) - (3)
                                     There certainly is - (bluke) - (2)
                                         Why are the resolutions being passed? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                             For one, anti-smeitism definately plays a role - (bluke)
                                 Cough...no argument there - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     No it's not - (bluke)
                 Most of the current violence... - (bepatient) - (2)
                     Not correct - (bluke)
                     Also - (static)
             Of course, blame the Jews - (bluke) - (8)
                 Lesse... - (bepatient) - (7)
                     Barak offered more at Camp David in 2000 ... - (bluke) - (6)
                         Apparently they do. - (bepatient) - (5)
                             Where was that demand from 1948-1967? - (bluke) - (4)
                                 Prior to 1967 - (bepatient) - (3)
                                     {cackle} Arabs must be slow.. in slogan-building - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         That would be a problem. - (bepatient)
                                     Wait, you mean the Palestinians are just Arabs - (bluke)
             If Israel did not exist, - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                 It's not nice - (Ashton)
         Re: Why are Africa and the Middle East in such bad shape? - (JvlivsCaesar) - (1)
             surviving in the arctic requires co-operation - (daemon)

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