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New Not worth the time Karsten.
I sent Norm Debian 3.0r1 CDS all tested on a really crappy OLD CD reader... this ensures that they were good CD-ROMs I also verified the media.

I also sent Norm, sundry of Windows Util including Cygwin, Mozilla, blah...

I also sent Norm, RedHat 8.0 CDs verified they worked using that SAME CRAPPY CD-Reader. I used them to install a scratch machine,

I also sent Norm, Mandrake 9.0 CDs verified by this same CD-Reader.

Trust me, this CD-READER is so Damn Picky, it there is One scratch on a "commercial" CD it will skip or have reading errors.

I also verified all of them on 6 other CD Readers of various ages... not including the old Mitsumi Drives that ran off the Sound Blaster Cards. Mainly because I couldn't even get it to read an 80Min CD.

GRUB. Only way to go. [link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToInstallKnoppix|SEE HERE] and [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=97405|SEE HERE]

Get on without trying to fix his Linux problems. he has proven before, and will again he just want to get us fomenting about him again.

I'd also resond to him directly by showing him his solution (or lack there of) by re-directing Norm (and for laughs you others) [link|http://www.iwethey.org/zerror.html|HERE]

TTFN.
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New What happened with the CDRs you sent me
They didn't work on my spare system, but worked on a Virtual PC session on my main machine. My spare system must have had bad hardware because eventually the motherboard went out. VPC was only a trial and I needed the hard drive space so I removed it from my main system.

But now I got boatloads of hard drive space on my main system, but I am being discouraged from doing a Multi-Boot.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New No...
No you aren't being discouraged. They are talking "above you".

Karsten gave you many good links and ideas. Shake what your mother gave you, and read and DO.

Remember:

There is no spoon!

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New There is no Spoon
Ok, first things first. Windows has to be installed before Linux, or else it may mess up the Linux partition and mess up LILO or GRUB.

First thing I did was update my ABit VH6-II BIOS to Ver 7F for large HD support. Onboard Ultra ATA100 Controller works fine now, sees all 160Gigs in CMOS setup.

I tried Win98 FDISK, it reported 21Gigs, I tried XP setup, it reported 137Gigs. Bah! I finally went and used the WD Data Lifeguard Tools and formatted and partitioned it with that. I made the reserved Linux partitions "FAT32" for now, I figure CFDISK can change them later or the Linux setup can if I keep them empty.

Win98 install is going fine, XP Pro will be later, and then OS/2, and then Red Hat and maybe Debian. After I read the Howtos Karsten kindly pointed me to, that is. :)

I am posting this from a spare machine that wouldn't take Linux, but would take Windows. This one locked up in the middle of a Red Hat install, the other one had media errors but the motherboard eventually went bad (I'm thinking the IDE controllers were failing, hence the Media Errors?).



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New Making progress -- Win98 large disk support, etc.

OK, Norm, you're making progress, which is commendable. Focus on the\r\ntask and the solution.

\r\n\r\n
\r\nOk, first things first. Windows has to be installed before Linux, or\r\nelse it may mess up the Linux partition and mess up LILO or GRUB.\r\n
\r\n\r\n

Well, if you're going to insist on multi-boot, yes. IIRC, it's\r\nWin9x or ME, then NT/2K/XP, then GNU/Linux, if these are the platforms\r\nyou're planning on running.

\r\n\r\n
\r\nFirst thing I did was update my ABit VH6-II BIOS to Ver 7F for large HD\r\nsupport. Onboard Ultra ATA100 Controller works fine now, sees all\r\n160Gigs in CMOS setup.\r\n
\r\n\r\n

This should be sufficient. Since the controller's UDMA, you should\r\nsee the disk's full performance as well. This is based on my\r\nunderstanding of the whole current IDE/ATA drive technology, which is\r\nsketchy at best (both my understanding, and the technology).

\r\n\r\n
\r\nI tried Win98 FDISK, it reported 21Gigs, \r\n
\r\n\r\n

Known issue. Remember: once you're past 2 GiB, or hell, 512 MiB,\r\nyou're into the patch and band-aid school of PC technology. Standard\r\n"barriers" are: 512 MiB, 2.1 GiB, 3.2 GiB, 4.2 GiB, 7.9 GiB, 33.8 GiB,\r\nand 167 GiB, or thereabouts (most of this from the GNU/Linux Large Disk\r\nHOWTO). In the case of Win98, see this KB article: [link|http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q243/4/50.ASP&NoWebContent=1|ScanDisk\r\nErrors on IDE Hard Disks Larger Than 32 GiB]. Your use of 3rd party\r\nutilities is probably the Right Thing[tm].

\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\nI tried XP setup, it reported\r\n137Gigs. Bah! I finally went and used the WD Data Lifeguard Tools and\r\nformatted and partitioned it with that. I made the reserved Linux\r\npartitions "FAT32" for now, I figure CFDISK can change them later or the\r\nLinux setup can if I keep them empty.\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\nWin98 install is going fine, XP Pro will be later, and then OS /2, and\r\nthen Red Hat and maybe Debian. After I read the Howtos Karsten kindly\r\npointed me to, that is. :)\r\n
\r\n\r\n

You're welcome ;-)

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\r\nI am posting this from a spare machine that wouldn't take Linux, but\r\nwould take Windows. This one locked up in the middle of a Red Hat\r\ninstall, the other one had media errors but the motherboard eventually\r\nwent bad (I'm thinking the IDE controllers were failing, hence the Media\r\nErrors?).\r\n
\r\n\r\n

Any reason this system can't remain your dedicated legacy MS Windows\r\nsystem? My experience is that it is far better to keep separate systems\r\nfor separate OSs rather than to dual-boot them. [link|http://www.tightvnc.com/|TightVNC] (Free Software) makes\r\nremote-accessing pretty much anything a snap.

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New Legacy MS system
It only has a 166Mhz Pentium 1 CPU, which would have been good enough to run Linux but with Windows it kind of is a slow-poke.

My main system is a 700Mhz Celeron with 128M of RAM, a doorstop by today's standards but good enough to run what I want so far.



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     It is almost Linux time - (orion) - (33)
         Re: It is almost Linux time - (deSitter) - (2)
             Why Windows (new thread) - (orion)
             Why OS/2? (new thread) - (orion)
         Hard Drives larger than 137 Gigs and Linux - (orion) - (28)
             Re: Hard Drives larger than 137 Gigs and Linux - (kmself) - (14)
                 Thanks for the info - (orion) - (12)
                     Excuses - (kmself) - (8)
                         I've never had a problem - (imric)
                         Not worth the time Karsten. - (folkert) - (6)
                             What happened with the CDRs you sent me - (orion) - (4)
                                 No... - (folkert) - (3)
                                     There is no Spoon - (orion) - (2)
                                         Making progress -- Win98 large disk support, etc. - (kmself) - (1)
                                             Legacy MS system - (orion)
                             Web server as Jewish grandmother? -NT - (jake123)
                     Re: Thanks for the info - (deSitter) - (2)
                         But Debian rocks post-installation! -NT - (imric) - (1)
                             Hey... - (gdaustin)
                 OK, just got the Promise PDC20268 working w/ 2.4.21 - (kmself)
             Re: Hard Drives larger than 137 Gigs and Linux - (pwhysall) - (3)
                 Filesystems, sure, but... - (kmself) - (2)
                     That's long since dead - (pwhysall)
                     Not just bios, IDE design evils - (lordbeatnik)
             Re: Hard Drives larger than 137 Gigs and Linux - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                 Idle curiosity - (pwhysall) - (6)
                     I seem to remember they called it quits on 3.0 desktop . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                         There is a fixpack 43 now - (jake123) - (4)
                             I stop at fixpack 12 for Warp 4 . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                 I dunno... - (jake123) - (2)
                                     Were you running . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                         No, I'm not (new thread) - (jake123)
                 OS/2 and NewDASD drivers (new thread) - (orion)
         Ok, starting over - (orion)

I see... dead people.
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