Re: Fire at the Gateway Arch

Post #110,272 by pwhysall 7/18/03 1:27:19 AM Reply	Re: Fire at the Gateway Arch 1. What is the Gateway Arch? 2. Where is it? 3. Why do I care? Remember that not everyone here is in the contiguous USA. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #110,280 by deSitter 7/18/03 2:41:55 AM Reply	Re: Fire at the Gateway Arch Monument in St. Louis to commemorate westward expansion. Free-standing arch in the form of an inverted catenary, a curve that has the unique property of having no bending moments present anywhere along the curve when loaded by gravity - thus the arch can be self-standing without being extremely massive (think of the Arc de Triomphe). [link\|http://www.nps.gov/jeff/\|http://www.nps.gov/jeff/] -drl
Post #110,282 by pwhysall 7/18/03 3:21:32 AM Reply	Most kind, thx. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #110,295 by CRConrad 7/18/03 7:50:13 AM Reply	OT:Designed by [a\|two] Finn[s], Eliel [or\|and] Eero Saarinen I know Ross knows this; just felt we shouldn't forget enlightening PeeWee on this vital aspect of it. :-) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #110,308 by rcareaga 7/18/03 9:49:41 AM Reply	Re: Fire at the Gateway Arch Anent "Monument in St. Louis to commemorate westward expansion": Firesign Theatre expressed it nicely 35 years ago, something to the effect of What may appear to the fainthearted to be a limitless expanse of godforsaken wilderness is in reality a golden opportunity for humble, God-fearin' settlers like ourselves, and our families, and the generations a-comin' to carve a new life out of the American Indian! Civilization ho! cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #110,382 by Ashton 7/18/03 3:26:26 PM Reply	Now now.. that was yesterday Progress has occurred since those fledgling practice sessions. West? Why today: N,E,W,S - and ^UP^ - there is no Limit to our expansion nor need we confine the glorious crusade to just Our indigenous folk. Can India-Indians be far behind? Especially with a modern Hannibal at the helm, with his own personal Iago. Ashton some days I be so Proud of bein part of the Master Race at Full Throttle
Post #110,385 by deSitter 7/18/03 3:33:44 PM Reply	Re: Now now.. that was yesterday Westward expansion could have been done with proper regard for the locals. The destruction of the Indian cultures came relatively later than the push westward, and was speared by Sherman and Sheridan, who didn't get enough in the civil war. -drl
Post #110,307 by SpiceWare 7/18/03 9:47:35 AM Reply	It has funky elevators there's a viewing deck on the top of the arch. There's some unique elevators to take you to the top. They have to compensate for the curve of the arch. Instead of the usual "box" that normal elevators have, these have sideways cylinders with seating in them. As you go up the arch, the "cans" rotate so your feet mostly point towards the earth. [link\|http://www.nps.gov/jeff/ar-tramsys.htm\|Dick Bowser and the Arch's Unique Tram System] Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #110,384 by Ashton 7/18/03 3:28:52 PM Reply	..yet we still can't produce, distribute an edible Tomato
Post #110,386 by admin 7/18/03 3:35:21 PM Reply	Dunno about you, but... I eat great, edible tomatoes on a regular basis. Try an organic one some time. You may be surprised. ObDrook'sObjection: Regarding Drew's objection that organic just tastes better because it comes from local producers, I would like to note that we have been enjoying some wonderful organic nectarines from California this week. Best damn nectarine I have had in years, in fact. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #110,393 by boxley 7/18/03 4:09:26 PM Reply	when you are tooling about the countryside you dont have vegetable stands? You are are very close to the vegetable kingdom in Cali arnt you? thanx, bill questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #110,433 by Ashton 7/18/03 8:55:36 PM Reply	Oh yes - sorta-better can be found. But that pale pinkish rock which passes for such in supermarkets (now for decades) is what I mainly meant. Corp-grocers are permitted to call millions of these cardboard things tomatoes and many folks cannot afford better. Bet many city kids have no idea what a tomato can be like. I note that the 'premium' grades, including "organics" thus far - with vine shoots attached, for one popular option - are only slightly better: texture a bit better but flavor is at least 40 dB down. I'm wondering if the US seed stock has all been replaced with variants these transistorized, armor-plated placebos? Soon my neighbor will have a new crop. These will be better than LuckSafeMart but last year's was still a mere shadow of the deep-red luscious fruit I recall getting from a friend's Marysville farm regularly, 10+ years ago. That's why I question the seed stock.. Google time. Ashton
Post #110,438 by boxley 7/18/03 9:26:51 PM Reply	Well here in Florida tomato capital of the east coast the local feild maters that show up vine ripened are not the pastel carboard they ship elsewhere. I think what you are refering to is a "Salad" Tomato that can travel 3 weeks and still be cut into recognisable shapes. Those are nasty. In florida we also get Local Beefstake, best of the breed and in the fall get Canadian Beefstakes, even better. Since the seeds in a beefstake are rather non existant I would wonder about that seed stock as well. When I used to grow them Stokes was my favorite but that was early 70's thanx, bill questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #110,360 by a6l6e6x 7/18/03 1:04:08 PM Reply	Another picture. [link\|http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Gateway_Arch.html\|Gateway Arch] with some facts about it. Catenary curve arch, 630 feet high, and 630 feet wide at the base. That's 192 meters in the civilized world. :) Probably the "inspiration" for the McDonald's sign. I visited it in July of 1974. Alex A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #110,363 by Nightowl 7/18/03 1:24:58 PM Reply	Re: Fire at the Gateway Arch 1. What is the Gateway Arch? 2. Where is it? 3. Why do I care? Remember that not everyone here is in the contiguous USA. I'm sorry, Peter. It's kinda a national thing, like the Statue Of Liberty, that people come to visit from all over the country, so I thought it might be important to mention that it was closed due to the fire. I do realize not everyone here is from the US. :) It won't reopen till Saturday, according to the news, so if anyone is planning to come visit it, that's when they expect it to reopen. I won't describe it for you since others did so and very well. :) Nightowl >8# "Only dead fish swim with the stream." Linda Ellerbee

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