But that pale pinkish rock which passes for such in supermarkets (now for decades) is what I mainly meant. Corp-grocers are permitted to call millions of these cardboard things tomatoes and many folks cannot afford better. Bet many city kids have no idea what a tomato can be like.
I note that the 'premium' grades, including "organics" thus far - with vine shoots attached, for one popular option - are only slightly better: texture a bit better but flavor is at least 40 dB down.
I'm wondering if the US seed stock has all been replaced with variants these transistorized, armor-plated placebos? Soon my neighbor will have a new crop. These will be better than LuckSafeMart but last year's was still a mere shadow of the deep-red luscious fruit I recall getting from a friend's Marysville farm regularly, 10+ years ago. That's why I question the seed stock.. Google time.
Ashton