My nit.

Post #10,787 by tseliot 9/28/01 11:50:56 AM Reply	My nit. I completely agree on the semantic value of the data structure, and since I'm likely going to need to have bond experts debug some of the calculations and so forth, I'd definitely prefer to stick to the templates. Can you give an example of what you mean? I can't (or won't ;) conceive of such a system, where critical business logic gets put anywhere near the templates (IOW, the M/V/C is getting a bit muddled for my liking). Shouldn't you be using a Proxy or Iterator (or something) to achieve cleaner separation? That's her, officer! That's the woman that programmed me for evil!
Post #10,788 by admin 9/28/01 11:55:16 AM Reply	Picture if you will... The entire system as it stands is built in Oracle stored procedures using mod_plsql and catenating the output using htp.p(). I need to fix that. As a result, I want to completely disallow any calculations being done in the output system as it is. However, I am going to need to have people verify that what came from the back end is actually being displayed properly on the front end, hence the business experts. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #10,790 by tseliot 9/28/01 12:02:53 PM Reply	Wow you really do sit around and watch this forum all day :P The entire system as it stands is built in Oracle stored procedures using mod_plsql and catenating the output using htp.p(). >>shudder<< But, hey, the great thing about the Dark Ages was coming out of them, right? More power to ya. That's her, officer! That's the woman that programmed me for evil!
Post #10,816 by admin 9/28/01 2:00:22 PM Reply	You know it. Dark ages... more like BC. The scary thing is that there are a number of people who have to be convinced of the usefulness of separation of business from presentation. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #10,819 by Fearless Freep 9/28/01 2:03:24 PM Reply	Scary thing... ..is that there are still a number of people who have to be convinced... Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #10,820 by admin 9/28/01 2:10:03 PM Reply	Yeap. But, it's what they know. Keep in mind that this application started as an Oracle app, written by PL/SQL programmers with HTML handbooks. They did a helluva lot of good stuff with it, but the architecture is going to start (actually, continue in some instances) breaking here soon. Regards, -scott anderson

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