Post #102,738
5/20/03 9:37:39 AM
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Patriot Art II being tested in Oregon?
[link|http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9568|The Inquirer]
Other acts described as terrorism include (but are not limited to): * Blocking traffic * School walkouts * Computer crime * Accepting a bribe * Theft and Burglary * Unauthorized use of a vehicle * Unlawful labeling of a videotape * Unlawful recording of a live performance * Negotiating a bad check * Dogfighting * Delivery of an imitation controlled substance * Producing fake IDs * Using another's driver's license * Drunk driving * Selling cigarettes to a minor
They forgot to add jaywalking and spitting on the sidewalk!
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #102,775
5/20/03 11:56:42 AM
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Forgot breastfeeding too...
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Post #102,815
5/20/03 3:03:00 PM
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Silver Lining
OREGON'S SENATE Bill 742, section 19, chapter 666 (here) defines the "unlawful labeling of a sound recording" as terrorism and would make it punishable by a minimum life sentence of 25 years in prison without parole. This means that the RIAA's/MPAA's attempt to "poison the well" by seeding KaZaA and other such legal P2P nest with mislabelled MP3s could land some muckety-mucks of said "organizations" in the slammer for a quarter century. Maybe this ain't all bad...?
jb4 "We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's." Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems
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Post #102,816
5/20/03 3:05:26 PM
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My thought.
It's like creamy white chocolate frosting on shit pie. A nice bonus, but the whole thing still stinks.
They say a city in the desert lies/ The vanity of an ancient king/ But the city lies in broken pieces/ Where the wind howls and the vultures sing/ These are the works of man/ This is the sum of our ambition...
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Post #102,916
5/21/03 8:30:09 AM
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They forgot "breaking wind"
and belching in public places too. What about picking your nose in public? That's GOTTA BE the act of a desperate terrorist :-)
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Post #102,930
5/21/03 9:42:03 AM
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Just noticed something...
OREGON'S SENATE Bill 742, section 19, chapter 666 (here) defines [...] Emphasis added... Are we perhaps being had?
jb4 "We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's." Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems
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Post #102,932
5/21/03 9:44:59 AM
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I downloaded the pdf from the government website
we're not being had. More's the pity. Remind me never to live in Oregon, if in some feverish trance I consider moving there.
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Post #102,933
5/21/03 9:49:19 AM
5/21/03 9:49:59 AM
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Actually, I used to live there
for about a year, on a field project, 1979-80. Except for the interminable rain (well, almost interminable..rained from about half past September 'til about June), I LOVED the place! I dunno what happened to it, but it seems that the intelligentsia simply up and left. Maybe all the rain simply makes the people with a clue really grumpy (or rusts their brains...).
jb4 "We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's." Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems
Edited by jb4
May 21, 2003, 09:49:59 AM EDT
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Post #102,947
5/21/03 10:49:16 AM
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Same thing that happened to Washington state.
The "eastern" rural part of the state went completely reactionary in response to the shrinking economy, and started railing against the "liberal" western half of the state - handing control of crucial districts to the most neocon freaks ever spotted outside of a Bush family convention.
They say a city in the desert lies/ The vanity of an ancient king/ But the city lies in broken pieces/ Where the wind howls and the vultures sing/ These are the works of man/ This is the sum of our ambition...
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Post #102,934
5/21/03 9:56:42 AM
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Just read the actual bill
And hear are some more items taken straight from the bill. (43) Interference with agricultural operations, (49) Criminal simulation, (52) Negotiating a bad check, (59) Issuing a false financial statement, (77) Possession of a hoax destructive device, (89) Prostitution, (93) Unlawful gambling (99) Cheating, (110) Unauthorized use of a livestock animal, (123) Misuse of an identification card, (130) Driving while under the influence of intoxicants, (131) Unlawful distribution of cigarettes, Gotta wonder about some of these... #49? Whole state on #99 if taxes are included...
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #102,936
5/21/03 10:03:57 AM
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Don't you recognize the mentality?
If it's *possible* to advance a terrorist agenda through use of prostitution, then prostitution is a tool fo terrorism. So anyone engaged in prostitution must be a terrorist.
Just like ... it's *possible* to burn CDs and sell them in violation of copyright, so CD burners are a tool of copyright violation. So anyone in posession of a CD burner is a criminal.
Does that make it any clearer?
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #102,939
5/21/03 10:14:49 AM
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Re: Just read the actual bill
(110) Unauthorized use of a livestock animal, I would hazard a guess that Karsten won't be visiting Oregon any time soon...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #102,941
5/21/03 10:24:59 AM
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From the details of Beep's party
It can't be held in OR -- #130.
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #102,943
5/21/03 10:38:21 AM
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We try and keep that to a minimum...
...which puts padded furniture and floorspace at a premium starting around 1am.
However, greg did manage to score "the chair".
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #102,948
5/21/03 10:51:15 AM
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Speaking of which, I'm bringing a blow-up...
... mattress this time, I think.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #102,949
5/21/03 10:52:47 AM
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Complete with ...
Arms, legs ... ;-b
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #102,954
5/21/03 11:17:45 AM
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I'll just put Greg under it.
5 times the cushion.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #103,023
5/21/03 8:00:49 PM
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Ouch....
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #102,955
5/21/03 11:19:12 AM
5/21/03 11:21:10 AM
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#110
[link|http://world.std.com/~mam/filks/Hedgehog.html|Hedgehog Song], anyone?
(oops, missed the Scott's note. Still, the link is worth re-posting to goad Ashton into reading Pratchett :) )
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Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them.
--Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
Edited by Arkadiy
May 21, 2003, 11:21:10 AM EDT
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Post #103,058
5/22/03 5:12:43 AM
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Goad good -
Thought it revealing of something that, at our local paperback used buy/sell exchange: there were -0- Pratchetts! in an otherwise ample assortment of the genre. *^&*%# nobody Ever Gives Em Up, I infer.
Oh well, that's what money is for: the Necessities. Screw the frills like.. protein.
Ashton
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Post #103,059
5/22/03 7:19:31 AM
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I'd never noticed that.
But yes, I've never seen any PTerry in second-hand book stores, either. You'll have to buy 'em new. :-)
Wade.
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Post #102,982
5/21/03 3:45:05 PM
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See? When the actual object is ludicrous:
It's impossible even to lampoon (Even if we actually had left any genuine Murican Wits, that is)
I mean.. WHO ???
Python. Yep. And that was 1970. Not from Detroit. Pratchett. [yes, I'm LATE; I'll catch up] Ain't from Detroit. Either
Our genii have LEFT - ALL of them: do you suppose they keenly grokked What Was Coming ??? THEY ARE *ALL* DEAD
We are living in a fucking DESERT of inanity, smarmy Calvinists, strutting bathetic-marlowes and despicable noise of the Worst Imaginable dissonance. We Are!
Ashton
OK, there's George Carlin; his first book was nice. The second sucked. He's Losing It. Murican Humor 03:Murican Politics 03:: OK you finish it.
Guess I'll cease to think and read, Watch Tee Vee and go to seed. [and That doggerel was {already..} From the 1950s!]
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