Post #92,897
3/29/03 6:47:34 PM
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Runsfeld ignored his generals
"We'll bury you under our [link|http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=584&e=1&cid=584&u=/nm/20030329/pl_nm/iraq_usa_report_dc|hats]!"
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Post #92,898
3/29/03 6:53:44 PM
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Oof, that sounds damning
Not suprising, unfortunately, but certainly damning.
"Our only hope is that they can hold out until reinforcements arrive," quoth the article from a pentagon planner. It seems they're about to run out of supplies, not due to problems with the supply lines but because the gear is simply not in theatre. If the worst comes to pass, it's going to be very ugly.
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Post #92,900
3/29/03 7:06:54 PM
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Hmmm...I smell...GOAT!
From what I've heard recently, Rummy came to the Pentagon with an attitude as great and wide as all outdoors, and pissed off the career military, the Army in particular, bigtime. The career military has repaid his disdain by keeping open their channels to the press, and leaving an audit trail of their reservations and concerns about doing "Operation Desert Dream" on the cheap, and so critically predicated on best-case assumptions. Once the fan-flung feces start landing all around the room, your uniforms will start piling on (as in "many of the people whose fingers you crush on your way up the ladder will be there with a bad attitude to greet you on your way down"), and we may look for the Rumster suddenly to yearn to "spend more time with his family." The Shrub could actually benefit from his supporters' tacit awareness that he's dumber'n catshit, and hence not to be held accountable for trotting whichever way his wicked handlers pointed him.
cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #92,903
3/29/03 7:32:17 PM
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Dowd on Rummy
'Swonnerful... We're shocked that the enemy forces don't observe the rules of war. We're shocked that it's hard to tell civilians from combatants, and friends from foes. Adversaries use guerrilla tactics; they are irregulars; they take advantage of the hostile local weather and terrain; they refuse to stay in uniform. Golly, as our secretary of war likes to say, it's unfair.
Some of their soldiers are mere children. We know we have overwhelming, superior power, yet we can't use it all. We're stunned to discover that the local population treats our well-armed high-tech troops like invaders.
Why is all this a surprise again? I know our hawks avoided serving in Vietnam, but didn't they, like, read about it? and: Rummy was beginning to erase his fingerprints. "The war plan," he said, "is Tom Franks's war plan." Tommy, we hardly knew ye. [link|http://nytimes.com/2003/03/30/opinion/30DOWD.html|http://nytimes.com/2...inion/30DOWD.html] cordially, "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #92,957
3/29/03 11:34:30 PM
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All over the press today
I've seen several variations of that article today. Somebody at the Pentagon is not happy with the invasion plan and the way Rumsfeld ran the planning for the invasion. Which isn't surprising since it looks like Rumsfeld micromanaged it to death, and pared the forces down the absolute mininum that would be needed to take the country if the government fell apart when we invaded.
I'm wondering if Cheney had a hand in that, since Runsfeld doesn't seem to be the type to make that sort of mistake. I can see Bush and Cheney pushing on Rumsfeld to keep the size of the army as small as possible to keep the cost down. Unfortunatly, they where already convinced Saddam's government was on the verge of collapse and that all we had to do was push.
Jay
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Post #92,964
3/29/03 11:42:34 PM
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Is that name Runsfeldt or Runsfazt ??? (just wanna know)
Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003
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Post #92,965
3/29/03 11:44:24 PM
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rummy is liable to be capable of exactly that error
he is a spec war fan and thought Iraq would handle like Afghanistan. Didnt seem to understand that it is a top down society ala the best of "cult of personality" regimes with a rather large standing army centrally controlled. It might have gone down if sadaam had been killed in the initial attack. Since he wasnt rummie did not have a contingency plan in place. He forgot that Gunny Murphy is always along for the ride.
thanx,
bill
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