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I'm really not interested in debating about this right at the moment. My reason for not wanting Moore in the White House is because he and I (and, apparently, you and I) disagree on the meaning of the second amendment. That's all I was saying. I think it's best we leave the rest of this discussion for another day.
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New I don't think we need another day, but thanks.
I've had this debate a bunch and I don't know if I've ever seen anyone change their position. The USSC interprets The Constitution, if you understand that, you understand that Amendment 2 is not about private ownership (here I leave out the typical argument that "if you can read..."). If you're a gun owner, you "will it" to apply to private ownership. No amount of reasoning will change anyone with such a view - it's an emotional issue with them, they hear some one wanting to take away one of their toys. Conversely, people familiar with the context and case law cannot accept that Amendment 2 applies to something that it doesn't. So, they too, are immoveable.

I wouldn't have gone this far except in these days when The Constitution is being shred willy-nilly and with barely a peep from the Murican People, my dander gets a little up when I see a reference to this old misrepresentation.

Enjoy shooting, or killing, or whatever trips your trigger.
bcnu,
Mikem

Osama bin Laden's brother could fly in US airspace 9/15/01, but I had to wait for FBI and CIA background checks, 'nuff said?
     Michael Moore for President -NT - (andread) - (14)
         Not until he faces up... - (rcareaga) - (3)
             That's a crock - (jake123) - (1)
                 Re: That's a crock - (rcareaga)
             Not until he faces up - (boxley)
         No thanks. - (cwbrenn) - (9)
             Re: 2nd Amendment. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                 No, *I* am. - (cwbrenn) - (7)
                     USSC: Miller, 1939. Cited often, never reversed. qed. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                         Good for them - (cwbrenn) - (5)
                             Yes, and you're free to disagree with The Constitution. :-) - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                 ... - (cwbrenn) - (1)
                                     I don't think we need another day, but thanks. - (mmoffitt)
                                 Sheesh. /me is dumb - (cwbrenn) - (1)
                                     Me 2! Apologies! -NT - (mmoffitt)

Gill was also down on his luck. Fact was, he was barely keeping his head below water.
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