Post #90,779
3/23/03 6:07:45 PM
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Who said anything about "commercial"?
Hell, don't fly commercial. Notwithstanding what the Gestapo Office of Homeland Security would have you believe, GA is not now, never has been and never will be the problem. Besides, if you fly and you're PIC (pilot in command) YOU get to decide who goes up with you ;-)
bcnu, Mikem
Osama bin Laden's brother could fly in US airspace 9/15/01, but I had to wait for FBI and CIA background checks, 'nuff said?
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Post #90,970
3/24/03 1:43:58 AM
3/24/03 1:46:10 AM
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Re: Who said anything about "commercial"?
No, I really don't want to be higher than the second floor of any place, or in any kind of flying contrivance.
9/11 really messed with my mind. I used to book flights based on *not* being direct flights. But the coalesence of all the things - fire, shredding, falling, being utterly out of control, extreme dismemberment - it's too horrifying to risk any more. It would be bad enough if you suddenly found yourself in that situation with no food to race the imagination about what was coming. Now I would not only have my own horror, but also all of those on the 104th floor of WTC1. Even as I write this, my stomach is churning. I'll never fly again.
-drl
Edited by deSitter
March 24, 2003, 01:46:10 AM EST
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Post #90,985
3/24/03 8:10:16 AM
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Hmmmm.
I'm not insensitive to your feelings, more interested in them. And one thing I've found interesting among some of the GA pilots I've met is a "fear" akin to yours.
You write [emphasis mine]:
But the coalesence of all the things - fire, shredding, falling, being utterly out of control, extreme dismemberment...
More than one GA pilot has told me that they don't like flying commercial for that very reason. One summed it up, "The only place I like to sit in an airplane is in one of the two front seats, where I can reach the controls."
bcnu, Mikem
Osama bin Laden's brother could fly in US airspace 9/15/01, but I had to wait for FBI and CIA background checks, 'nuff said?
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Post #90,989
3/24/03 8:22:16 AM
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shoot I was like that before 911
stuck as a passenger where all I could do was hope the front two were competent and awake. Takeoff no prob but eagle eyed the landing with a well done for a perfect 3 pointer on exit. thanx, bill
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Post #91,205
3/24/03 9:21:33 PM
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Re: Hmmmm.
Terrorism works - but not with the people who matter.
I'm really pissed that I can't fly any more with enjoyment. One step at a time, my desire to move around is being removed.
Even more than flying, I just liked being on high places. I always wanted to live in a highrise - no more.
-drl
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Post #91,011
3/24/03 10:22:33 AM
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fear of flying, and a credo
I fly with a sort of irrational confidence that if you simply approach a plane crash with the right attitude you should be able to walk away from it (I recognize that this is at odds with the reality of episodes like the Pittsburgh crash of ten years ago from which the largest single fragments of recovered human remains were about the size of a thumbnail, but I did acknowledge it as irrational). For the rest I urge upon you a line I think I once encountered in John Updike (although I've never found it again): "We do, after all, survive every moment, except the last."
cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #91,176
3/24/03 7:50:42 PM
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Great quote.
bcnu, Mikem
Osama bin Laden's brother could fly in US airspace 9/15/01, but I had to wait for FBI and CIA background checks, 'nuff said?
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Post #91,198
3/24/03 9:08:23 PM
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I hope to see it in LRPDland one day
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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