they're honest about it. I mean, do they also have "discouraged workers" who don't count? I don't remember exactly when this happened, I think under Reagan or Bush I, but I recall the rules about the unemployment figure changing. Under the old rules, there were no "discouraged workers" and the people in the military were excluded from the computation. New rules: you stay unemployed long enough and you become "discouraged" and don't count, and now everyone in the military is counted as "employed". Pushes our "real" unemployment number down.