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Post #78,833
by deSitter
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2/3/03 12:22:36 AM
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New Also
I assume by "writing memory management routines" you mean dynamic storage allocation as in C - this is simply a matter of testing and discipline, even in bare C, and it's easier in C++ (but more prone to abuse). A decent C programmer never worries about leaks, because only a lazy sloppy gross oversight would produce one.
-drl
Post #78,856
by dmarker
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2/3/03 5:35:18 AM
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New Bull****

You appear to have never had to spend hours, days, week, months tracking down memory leaks in C++ code. Or, in C++ commercial software.

I will buy out of this thread because I can't believe what I am hearing & have concluded it is you at your worst shooting from the lip.

Cheers Doug
(luv ya otherwise <g>)
Post #79,275
by deSitter
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2/4/03 3:03:02 PM
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New Sure I Have
I know C is easy to abuse - I know C++ is shit when used wrong, and by definition shit as an object environment. But mallocing and freeing is just a non-issue. Always use an explicit cast in C, always know the size of data, do the prep work - just like writing assembler.

C is not a good application langauge in any case, so this discussion is pointless.

Personally, I agree with Scott, that Obj-C is a better approach than C++, but it's still C and it still sucks as an application language.
-drl
Post #78,859
by ben_tilly
2/3/03 7:09:34 AM
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New Your definition of a decent C programmer
Falls under my definition of an arrogant idiot.

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #78,873
by boxley
2/3/03 8:36:58 AM
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New Well my definition of a good C++ programmer is a
thoughtful person who verifies what each module does in fact do before releasing it to the wild. I know of 2 folk Wil Gerkin and Rob Simonelli whose C++ skills should be emulated thru out the business even if it would put people like me out of business.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

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     SUN: Java is almost extinct (sp bury it aready) - (boxley) - (29) - Jan. 28, 2003, 09:56:49 PM EST
         I think the real issue here is ... - (dmarker) - (28) - Jan. 29, 2003, 10:33:18 AM EST
             ObMeToo - (tseliot) - Jan. 29, 2003, 04:21:43 PM EST
             Re: I think the real issue here is ... - (deSitter) - (22) - Jan. 30, 2003, 05:41:44 AM EST
                 C'mon - did MSBasic interpreter get dropped ??? - (dmarker) - (21) - Feb. 2, 2003, 07:57:53 AM EST
                     Re: C'mon - did MSBasic interpreter get dropped ??? - (deSitter) - (20) - Feb. 2, 2003, 12:53:11 PM EST
                         If that were true Java would've never taken off !!! - (dmarker) - (19) - Feb. 2, 2003, 11:24:01 PM EST
                             Re: If that were true Java would've never taken off !!! - (deSitter) - (10) - Feb. 3, 2003, 12:18:09 AM EST
                                 Using 256M per thread... - (admin) - (9) - Feb. 3, 2003, 10:11:19 AM EST
                                     I must be from outta town... - (jb4) - (6) - Feb. 4, 2003, 11:41:50 AM EST
                                         Re: I must be from outta town... - (admin) - (5) - Feb. 4, 2003, 12:05:05 PM EST
                                             There is NOTHING wrong with pointers! - (jb4) - (3) - Feb. 4, 2003, 01:35:43 PM EST
                                                 Re: There is NOTHING wrong with pointers! (new thread) - (admin) - Feb. 4, 2003, 01:55:10 PM EST
                                                 Thing is, some tools are more abuse-prone than others. - (CRConrad) - Feb. 4, 2003, 01:59:50 PM EST
                                                 You just said it !!!! - (dmarker) - Feb. 4, 2003, 07:43:47 PM EST
                                             Saved me the trouble - ditto - to JB4 - (dmarker) - Feb. 4, 2003, 07:40:45 PM EST
                                     Re: Using 256M per thread... - (deSitter) - (1) - Feb. 4, 2003, 03:07:00 PM EST
                                         "Are there any good ones?" - (admin) - Feb. 4, 2003, 03:42:46 PM EST
                             Also - (deSitter) - (4) - Feb. 3, 2003, 12:22:36 AM EST
                                 Bull**** - (dmarker) - (1) - Feb. 3, 2003, 05:35:18 AM EST
                                     Sure I Have - (deSitter) - Feb. 4, 2003, 03:03:02 PM EST
                                 Your definition of a decent C programmer - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Feb. 3, 2003, 07:09:34 AM EST
                                     Well my definition of a good C++ programmer is a - (boxley) - Feb. 3, 2003, 08:36:58 AM EST
                             Hey I'm Special! - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 3, 2003, 12:58:45 PM EST
                                 GC lib? - (jb4) - (1) - Feb. 4, 2003, 11:44:55 AM EST
                                     Garbage Collection. -NT - (admin) - Feb. 4, 2003, 12:02:21 PM EST
             Will it do? - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Feb. 2, 2003, 05:02:07 PM EST
                 Picture - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Feb. 2, 2003, 06:30:35 PM EST
                     Switched URLs - Thanks! -NT - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 2, 2003, 06:51:37 PM EST
                     So YOU'RE the one who fixed it! - (jb4) - Feb. 4, 2003, 11:46:57 AM EST

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