Post #71,119
12/27/02 4:37:22 PM
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New word from Microsoft...
[link|http://www.thedailycamera.com/bdc/national_intl_business/article/0,1713,BDC_2464_1632685,00.html|Costly]!
Seems they can't FUD it enough...
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Post #71,168
12/27/02 10:16:09 PM
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It appears that . .
. . the author sold this article to just about every magazine and newspaper on the face of the earth. This is about the 6th place I've seen it so far.
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Post #71,170
12/27/02 10:18:56 PM
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Oh well...
at least she makes sure her word is known!
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Post #71,447
12/30/02 9:10:10 AM
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Uhm, do the words "Assoiciated Press" mean anything to you?
Me neither! :-)
But if you spell them correctly (as "Associated Press" with fewer 'i's in 'Associated'), then they mean something... And AP are kind'a famous for precisely that -- getting the same story sold to a zillion outlets -- aren't they? In fact, I think that's what they're all about; what they exist *for*, even. ;^)
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Post #71,448
12/30/02 9:22:58 AM
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Ha! :-)
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Post #71,458
12/30/02 10:02:11 AM
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(Must'a been the Noo Joisey branch of AP! :-)
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Post #71,193
12/27/02 11:32:38 PM
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That dog won't hunt
If you are going to throw shit, make sure that you aren't throwing it at a teflon surface?
I love seeing Microsoft shoot itself in the foot like this. :-)
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #71,331
12/29/02 4:30:19 PM
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Not really costly
once properly configured. Instead of paying for your employees to get a MCSE, they should instead get a RHCE degree. Then once the Linux box is configured properly, all you need do is add and remove users when HR makes their decisions to hire or fire. No need to keep tweaking the server unless management is so wishy-washy that they want to keep changing directories and other stuff around a lot. We set up servers with Rebot Inc from 1995 to 1997 that still have not been touched recently and run a Pentium 133Mhz with SAMBA or better. Runs better than a 1 Ghz Windows 2000 Server box, and costs the clients a lot less money as well. Living proof that Linux is not costly.
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Post #71,334
12/29/02 5:05:37 PM
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That is the point.
FUD has completely lost it's punch.
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free trip to the local Hoosegow! | | I'll never tell, my *overly-red* lips are sealed! *wink* *wink* |
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Post #71,360
12/29/02 7:06:09 PM
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Pretty soon we'll be reading about . .
. . yet another Microsoft internal memo describing how badly this new pitch has flopped. Nobody's going to believe this line.
I replaced a bunch of NetWare servers with Linux / Samba for Y2K because it cost a lot less and current NetWare wouldn't run on their old servers anyway. They all have a Samba share named SYS, to eliminate client configuration issues.
Since then, I've had clients actually forget they even had a server. Matter of fact, I can't even remember where some of them are.
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Post #71,488
12/30/02 10:58:11 AM
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If configured correctly
they won't even notice the differece between having a Linux/SAMBA server or a NT/2000 Server, their mapped network drives will map the same, and so will their network printers. To the user, it might as well be a Netware or Windows NT/2000 Server.
In 1995-1997 we showed our clients two server confitations, one with NT Server and the other with Linux and SAMBA. The price difference was $1000USD and NT was limited to 5 users, maybe 10 if they got a special deal with an OEM, but Linux and SAMBA was unlimited. Guess which one they chose? Uh huh, the Linux one!
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Post #71,502
12/30/02 11:32:02 AM
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I can only use a Linux server about half the time.
I serve small business clients, and many small businesses depend on one key management application, that would be too expensive to change even if the replacement were free (which is unlikely).
In many cases, that application is Client Server, and based on an engine that is not available for Linux, or the publisher simply won't support it on Linux even thought the engine is available and works fine. Even with some regular LAN applications that don't care, tech support will hang up on you if they hear you have a Linux server on your network. Since all these managment applications include numerous "quirks", tech support is needed.
Just a week ago I got lambasted by an Act! consultant about how "Bill Gates won the war". By time I got to the site, he'd already gotten info about "unsupported" Samba config from Symantecs tech articles (Opportunistic Locking must be turned off for Win98, NT, 2000, and Samba). The immediate problem was just permissions which I fixed in a few minutes and he left happy with a copy of my smb.conf.
I go through this "unsupported" crap all the time, but it's slowly drifting to "We only support Red Hat". Same cop-out, different phrase.
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Post #71,506
12/30/02 11:44:00 AM
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There you have it....
We have a Winna!
We now know *WHY* I support RedHat 6.2 through 8.0, and all of it's lovely "RPM" dependancies stuff.
I would truly love to support more than one distro... but ya know...
[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
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[link|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html| Wi-Fi Terrorism] comes with an all inclusive
free trip to the local Hoosegow! | | I'll never tell, my *overly-red* lips are sealed! *wink* *wink* |
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