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Post #55,942

by orion

10/10/02 8:00:01 AM

Somewhat

but if the rotten ones are converted to good ones, then they are gotten rid of because they are born again. The old rotten person would then no longer exist.

Many people who are not Christians are still the good ones, IMHO.

Yes anyone can be saved, but they must first want to be saved. You cannot force it on anyone.

If Jesus came back, healed the sick and dying, did more miricles, brought about world peace, ened hunger and poverty, etc. Wouldn't it fix things?

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Post #56,010

by Andrew Grygus

10/10/02 1:37:54 PM

Eating of the "fruit of the knowledge of good and evil" has separated mankind forever from the rest of creation. "Behold, he is as we".

Mankind is on the bottom rung of godhood and every person must take responsibility for his/her own development. The promise of pushing responsibility off onto some "savior" is wishful thinking, and futile back sliding at best. The burden of individual responsibility should be accepted willingly, because it's inescapable anyway.

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Drug Dealers - (deSitter) - (59) - Oct. 9, 2002, 09:18:51 PM EDT

Nah! - (orion) - (9) - Oct. 9, 2002, 09:49:44 PM EDT

Do you even *see* the hypocrisy? - (Silverlock) - (3) - Oct. 10, 2002, 12:07:03 AM EDT

Somewhat - (orion) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2002, 08:00:01 AM EDT

No - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 10, 2002, 01:37:54 PM EDT

Jesus's schedule... - (jb4) - Oct. 10, 2002, 01:25:09 PM EDT

Time to move this to "religion". -NT - (Brandioch) - (3) - Oct. 10, 2002, 01:57:26 PM EDT

Or Politics? - (gdaustin) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2002, 05:57:07 PM EDT

There's a difference? -NT - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 11, 2002, 11:24:46 AM EDT

Dup - (gdaustin) - Oct. 10, 2002, 06:39:20 PM EDT

Exactly! - (gdaustin) - Oct. 10, 2002, 06:38:11 PM EDT

Socialism won't work - (orion) - (11) - Oct. 9, 2002, 09:52:06 PM EDT

It's not an economic/political system problem... - (gdaustin) - (8) - Oct. 10, 2002, 09:18:23 PM EDT

The question is, (and it's a big one!) who's values? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (5) - Oct. 11, 2002, 11:26:57 AM EDT

Answer - (gdaustin) - (4) - Oct. 11, 2002, 01:06:40 PM EDT

Re: Answer - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 11, 2002, 09:54:56 PM EDT

There's a difference... - (gdaustin) - (2) - Oct. 11, 2002, 11:24:56 PM EDT

It's Natural! - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2002, 08:43:09 AM EDT

Diff between looking and acting on impulses - (gdaustin) - Oct. 12, 2002, 01:31:00 PM EDT

It is a flawed universe far from perfect - (orion) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2002, 06:51:23 PM EDT

I am praying for you. - (Arkadiy) - Oct. 18, 2002, 09:59:19 PM EDT

RE: socialism choking the life out of Cuba. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2002, 12:20:50 AM EDT

Why yes, but for their own good, like Iraqi population next- -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 12, 2002, 07:01:30 AM EDT

I think you're confused - DRL - (gdaustin) - (4) - Oct. 10, 2002, 06:45:15 PM EDT

Tell it to CRC - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 11, 2002, 10:07:35 PM EDT

Perhaps You Should Join Him? - (gdaustin) - (2) - Oct. 11, 2002, 11:19:14 PM EDT

Love It or Leave It, eh? - (Ashton) - Oct. 12, 2002, 07:24:26 AM EDT

Re: Perhaps You Should Join Him? - (deSitter) - Oct. 12, 2002, 08:47:12 AM EDT

Socialism would not be kind to you. - (mmoffitt) - (31) - Oct. 14, 2002, 10:59:27 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:09:02 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:26:09 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:27:07 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:27:30 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:27:51 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:28:01 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:29:09 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:30:42 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:32:04 PM EDT

Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - (21) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:32:25 PM EDT

What we have a case of here... - (admin) - (8) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:39:20 PM EDT

Re: What we have a case of here... - (deSitter) - (7) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:41:42 PM EDT

Bahahaa... - (admin) - (6) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:42:39 PM EDT

What is That? -NT - (deSitter) - (4) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:46:34 PM EDT

Re: What is That? - (admin) - (3) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:58:25 PM EDT

Is that a reference to the poetess... - (CRConrad) - (2) - Oct. 15, 2002, 09:01:20 AM EDT

Ooohh.... NICE Quick-Save button! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - Oct. 15, 2002, 08:49:43 AM EDT

It's from Dune -NT - (admin) - Oct. 15, 2002, 09:19:01 AM EDT

You might as well make'm blink too -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:47:42 PM EDT

Do you favor more or less gov't? - (ChrisR) - (5) - Oct. 15, 2002, 12:13:23 AM EDT

More posts, at least. -NT - (admin) - Oct. 15, 2002, 12:20:45 AM EDT

Not At All - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 15, 2002, 12:38:45 AM EDT

But then, neither France nor Scandinavia is "socialist"... - (CRConrad) - (2) - Oct. 15, 2002, 09:00:44 AM EDT

Re: But then, neither France nor Scandinavia is "socialist" - (deSitter) - Oct. 15, 2002, 10:01:58 AM EDT

Good post. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 15, 2002, 09:11:01 PM EDT

What is this? - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Oct. 15, 2002, 09:07:16 PM EDT

Re: What is this? What It Was - (deSitter) - Oct. 15, 2002, 09:14:03 PM EDT

How about our favorite drug? - (drewk) - (3) - Oct. 16, 2002, 08:38:14 AM EDT

Here's a tip. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Oct. 17, 2002, 08:00:09 PM EDT

So it's testable, is it still active? - (drewk) - Oct. 18, 2002, 09:00:38 AM EDT

Re: Here's a tip. - (deSitter) - Oct. 18, 2002, 11:54:18 AM EDT

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