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New Case study #1, additional.
All in all, an interesting mix of fact, interpretation presented as fact, denial and pure ideological bullshit. I like the idea of using graphs. It makes the bullshit so much clearer.
If you have specific, accurate counters to the material presented (and there was a lot of it so finding specific, accurate counters shouldn't be difficult) then present them.

Otherwise, subject continues to exemplify the behaviour patterns I noted months ago.
New On marlowe's post
"All in all, an interesting mix of fact, interpretation presented as fact, denial and pure ideological bullshit. I like the idea of using graphs. It makes the bullshit so much clearer."
The above is an accurate statement. I found the same mix in that particular link and his remarks on diminuizing people by name playing also a good point.

Marlowe when hearing nazi's thinks of concentration camps and jackboots not economic theory. He see's the word socialist and associates with the left. That is why I took the time to educate him with the further posts.
thanx,
bill
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New I don't see it that way.
Marlowe when hearing nazi's thinks of concentration camps and jackboots not economic theory. He see's the word socialist and associates with the left.
I will agree with you on that.

"All in all, an interesting mix of fact, interpretation presented as fact, denial and pure ideological bullshit. I like the idea of using graphs. It makes the bullshit so much clearer."
The above is an accurate statement. I found the same mix in that particular link and his remarks on diminuizing people by name playing also a good point.
Allow me to expound. Suppose you and another person are listening to a third person explain how the space program was a fake because the world is flat. You'd think that person was an idiot.

And the other person could agree that the third person was an idiot.

Then the other person says that the world isn't flat it is a sphere and the universe revolves around it and that is why it is obvious that the space program was a hoax.

The other person's summary of the third person is correct.

The details are the problems.

And, as you've noted, Marlowe doesn't have much depth of knowledge on the details.

So, is Marlowe's summary accurate? Maybe. Maybe not.

Is the basis for Marlowe's summary accurate? I'm going to say no.
New hate to defend marlowe but here goes
"Was not the decade of the 60s and the early part of the 70s considered to be radical era, a time when tradional values were questioned and rejected. In this case, the rise of fascism in America was a reaction to the "hippy era" and all that it implies. But this is not a wonder, the elites of the business world embrace stability and loathe changes. Stability translates into predictable profits, changes on the other hand are not predictable and could threaten profits. Now we have established the link between the moneyed elite and the reactionary nature of fascism."
the above was my quote of the link.
"In this case, the rise of fascism in America was a reaction to the "hippy era" and all that it implies"
The rise of facism and all it implies was not a result of the hippy era. The rise was in direct result of the supreme court rulings that gave us the miranda warnings, riots over black vs rights issus and the civil rights movements. Big business used civil disorder to expain US flight when a horrendous trade issue began to arise. A shoe completed by vietnamese labor for $2.00 could compete with$32 dollar BK nights with a large markup. This is not facism but taxable trade imbalance. If goods were landed at American Shores and the profit margin was taxed at the landing price vs the selling price we would not be in the situation we are today. This is not facism it is imblance of trade.
thanx,
bill

thanx,
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New I'm confused.
hate to defend marlowe but here goes
But then I don't see anything about defending Marlowe's points of fact.

Probably because Marlowe didn't present any.

Instead, you're presenting counters to the original article.

As I noted in my previous post, it is possible to be "correct" in your summary, but for completely incorrect reasons.
New my math teacher used to say the same thing
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     hmm proof I am a southerner by nature (fixed link) - (boxley) - (18)
         Link doesn't work - (marlowe) - (1)
             It works for me. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         National Socialism was capitalist? - (marlowe) - (15)
             National Socialism was Capitalist? Absofsckinglutely - (boxley) - (2)
                 No, you blew it. It doesn't work that way. - (marlowe) - (1)
                     What does your link have to do with how the nazis rose - (boxley)
             A few links on nazism and capitalists entwined - (boxley) - (3)
                 Bravo! Bill - fine sleuthing. - (Ashton) - (2)
                     Nit - "Assessinaron" - (mhuber) - (1)
                         Re: Nit - "Assessinaron" - (Ashton)
             Case study #1, additional. - (Brandioch) - (5)
                 On marlowe's post - (boxley) - (4)
                     I don't see it that way. - (Brandioch) - (3)
                         hate to defend marlowe but here goes - (boxley) - (2)
                             I'm confused. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                 my math teacher used to say the same thing -NT - (boxley)
             OK Captain Clarity - let's see your substantive rebuttal. - (Ashton) - (1)
                 Okay, General Gibberish - (marlowe)

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