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New I have a 2017 focus 2013 f150 2004 dodge sebring, none require foot on brake to start
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New No one cares
I've been dealing with various brake to start, or brake to shift, for years. So what?
You want a "quiet" car? Get the police package, when you lock or unlock it the alarm system keeps quiet.
Expand Edited by crazy Nov. 12, 2019, 05:14:35 PM EST
     2019 ford fusion hybrid - (boxley) - (19)
         Sounds like they got a lot wrong. - (static)
         Why do you care that people know you started the car? - (drook) - (7)
             maybe? if you are sitting parked ahead watching a 3rd party and they get in to start theirs - (boxley) - (6)
                 wat -NT - (pwhysall)
                 Your criticism of a mass-market car is that it's not optimized for covert surveillance? OK - (drook) - (4)
                     If that's the issue, drive a manual and stop being a lazy shit -NT - (pwhysall)
                     old habits, same reason I disable the dome lights -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                         Yeah, because you used to be Sam Spade when you were younger. Sure. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                             uh, no -NT - (boxley)
         Wait what - (pwhysall) - (9)
             Same with BOxley. He's just gone senile and forgot that. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                 I drive a ford focus 2 litre -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                     Yeah, I can read; I saw that. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                         not hardly - (boxley)
             I have a 2017 focus 2013 f150 2004 dodge sebring, none require foot on brake to start -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                 No one cares - (crazy)
             Foot on brake to shift out of park, maybe. -NT - (malraux) - (2)
                 functionally the same thing - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     here we have a parking/neutral switch that needs to be engaged before the engine will start - (boxley)

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