Post #428,144
3/29/19 11:47:08 AM
3/29/19 11:47:08 AM
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I'm sorry to say this, Peter, but the UK's Parliament is even worse than our political situation.
They killed May's agreement for the third time today. They voted not to leave the EU without a deal after having voted "No" on the only deal in existence. They voted no on all eight proposals for what they want to do going forward. They want some deal, but can't agree what they want in that deal.
It's a circular firing squad.
I'll never understand why there aren't effigies of Cameron being burned all over the UK.
bcnu, Mikem
It's mourning in America (and the UK) again.
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Post #428,146
3/29/19 1:31:53 PM
3/29/19 1:31:53 PM
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It's a mess, that much is true
My prediction after today: it'll take a General Election to sort this out.
And there's no way I'm predicting the outcome of that.
Right now, though, I'm going to the pub.
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Post #428,151
3/29/19 2:29:22 PM
3/29/19 2:29:22 PM
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I don't blame you. Have one pulled for me.
bcnu, Mikem
It's mourning in America again.
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Post #428,153
3/29/19 2:42:11 PM
3/29/19 2:42:11 PM
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Realistically, what will an election do?
There's no way to get one in before April 12, which means you'd need a *long* extension and the UK will end up in the EU elections.
Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #428,155
3/29/19 3:04:04 PM
3/29/19 3:04:04 PM
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Away with you, and take your logic with you.
It's a long extension, a GE, a revocation, and a lot (and when I say "a lot", I mean "a fucking lot, multiplied by a massive shitload") of whining and wailing and gnashing of teeth about ARE CUNTRY and ARE DEMOCRUSY and TAKIN BAK CUNTROL, but at least we'll still have an economy of sorts.
The wildcard is of course the new political party.
They're currently called Change UK, but I'd expect that to...
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
...change.
YEAAAAAAAAAAH
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Post #428,157
3/29/19 4:24:55 PM
3/29/19 4:24:55 PM
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I wasn't even going to mention revocation.
Do you seriously think that will happen even after a GE? Same nitwits, different government.
Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #428,164
3/29/19 6:42:12 PM
3/29/19 6:42:12 PM
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Somehow I heard those all-caps in my head in Cockney without even trying ... Top marks
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Post #428,187
4/1/19 10:45:15 AM
4/1/19 10:45:15 AM
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There was a BBC clip of an interview with John Major
He said new elections would be useless at this time.
But he also said that some sort of "unity government" was required to get through this.
The clip didn't say how that would work.
This AM the BBC news had a decent report that said that the Tories were basically split in two (hard Brexit, no deal, forward into the breech; soft Bexit, customs union, other economic arrangements, a no-deal would be a catastrophe, etc.), and it was impossible to square the circle.
And that's been obvious for years, but May just kept plodding along.
What wasn't said was why the EU would go along with a customs union without all the other stuff that EU members who are in that have to go along with (as I understand it). Hmm... Kinda like Turkey, maybe (I see that that customs union doesn't apply to agricultural products)?? But since Turkey wants in the EU, it's not a good comparison.
Bah, it's a mess.
It's clear that the Tories can't pass anything, and the DUP isn't helping.
There needs to be new elections or they need to scrap the whole thing (which they should do anyway) until they can come up with something that works (which would be never as long as Ireleand and N. Ireland share a border).
Good luck.
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #428,188
4/1/19 1:07:46 PM
4/1/19 1:07:46 PM
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I'm unconvinced the Chucklehead Tories (Johnson, Rees-Mogg, et al.)
wouldn't be willing to sacrifice Northern Ireland for leaving the EU. Most of them never even considered the impact to NI whilst they were painting their (most likely Russian funded) lies on buses during the campaign.
From over here, it seems to me that Brexiteers and their supporters have a whole lot in common with our Republican Party and the 41% who blindly support Trump.
bcnu, Mikem
It's mourning in America again.
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Post #428,193
4/1/19 6:14:27 PM
4/1/19 6:14:27 PM
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It did spawn a new species
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Post #428,268
4/4/19 3:43:17 PM
4/4/19 3:43:17 PM
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Noice! last-line ;^>
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Post #428,162
3/29/19 6:33:01 PM
3/29/19 6:33:01 PM
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Pub? ..think I'd be looking to snorting a few lines.. thence an unpronounceable Scottish liqueur.
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