I've heard everything now. Dan Coats makes a salient point.

Post #419,403 by mmoffitt 8/1/17 9:37:38 AM 8/1/17 9:37:38 AM Reply	I've heard everything now. Dan Coats makes a salient point. LESTER HOLT: And in terms of the number of options available publicly we know that there aren’t a lot of great options there, and a lot of it is trying to see into Kim Jong-un’s head and that’s I suspect that most difficult kind of intelligence trying to predict someone’s behavior. COATS: Well, he’s demonstrated behavior publicly that really raises some questions about who he is and how he thinks and how he acts, what his behavior is, but our assessment has come — has pretty much resulted in the fact that while he’s a very unusual type of person, he’s not crazy. And there is some rationale backing his actions which are survival, survival for his regime, survival for his country, and he has watched I think what has happened around the world relative to nations that possess nuclear capabilities and the leverage they have and seen that having the nuclear card in your pocket results in a lot of deterrence capability. The lessons that we learned out of Libya giving up its nukes and Ukraine giving up its nukes is unfortunately if you had nukes, never give them up. If you don’t have them, get them, and we see a lot of nations now thinking about how do we get them and none more persistent than North Korea … https://theintercept.com/2017/07/29/dan-coats-north-korea-nukes-nuclear-libya-regime-change/ It would do all Americans well to remember why North Koreans loathe and fear us so much (plenty-o-links in this one). bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #419,408 by a6l6e6x 8/1/17 11:39:05 AM 8/1/17 11:39:05 AM Reply	Yesterday, Tump said "It will be handled". So, tiny hands or not, rest assured! Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #419,421 by Ashton 8/1/17 9:44:56 PM 8/1/17 9:58:27 PM Reply	If the general ignorance of today's periodic-"voters" matches their ignorance of Vietnam (never mind! the near-total-amnesia re. matters described in the piece on Korea!) ..adding too, cluelessness of the similarities re our actions under a Curtiss Le May (et al) and throughout most of the 'little' successor wars ever since.. Then: A little-Drumpf-fomented Look-Over-Here! war (in his incubator already? as the de Riguer response of so many other dictators-in-trouble with the fleeced-millions) ... Shirley ... this prospect is much more Likely--at any moment--than Not. Shirley We. Must. Think. on that, OR apply soon for Passport, cultivate any Canadian acquaintances and ..you know. Vote-with-feet? (no compromised transistors in them, at all.) As a pilot you must (?) Thank Cthulhu that--at the least--the Sociopath-in-Chief cannot possibly one-up Shrub's stunt, landing on a carrier in (some.. Sea) as. if. Co-pilot. But he might commission a flying suit + air-pump as rearranges his anatomy so as to appear Yuuuge (..if he can, in fact, climb down the teensy ladder from cockpit, that is.) Klaatu Barada Nikkto, Y'all I so miss Klaatu, Gort and the lovely-eeriei Theremin intro to TDTEST {{sigh}} In those halcyon days.. National Seppuku was not even a mavericky-^thought high in the æther, amidst the 'Advanced' prognosticators amongst us. (No American then knew anything-Japanese, Sushi? surely not; seppuku nope (though Harakiri uses same 腹 character.) The Day the Earth Stood Still came out a year before DDE was Prez.. Prescience: Klaatu [Michael Rennie] gets shot by a soldier as he reaches for a device, a gift for the Prez "to talk with the Other Planets" ..seconds after arrival. I suppose that a (foolish!) remake would do it by drone? Edited by Ashton Aug. 1, 2017, 09:58:27 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #419,424 by mmoffitt 8/2/17 10:35:19 AM 8/2/17 10:35:19 AM Reply	Re: a year before DDE Buried in my second link there is this, which I think bears posting itself. General of the Army Douglas MacArthur, a man of infinite accomplishments, died embittered by the knowledge he had been frustrated in his efforts to crown his long career with two additional contributions to war and peace. He proposed to win a decisive military victory in Korea by the employment of 500,000 Nationalist Chinese, an atomic attack on the enemy's air and supply bases in Manchuria, and the spreading of a huge belt of radioactive cobalt across the northern frontier of that battlescarred land. In the realm of peace, he proposed to President‐elect Dwight D. Eisenhower, his one‐time aide, a plan to end the cold was which would have cast Mr. Eisenhower in what General MacArthur called a messianic role. ... He found Mr. Eisenhower at first an enthusiastic backer of the MacArthur plan to end the cold war. But the counsel of John Foster Dulles prevailed and General MacArthur grieved over both failures in an extraordinary interview he gave this reporter on Jan. 27, 1954, the day after his 74th birthday. His hands shook as he spoke of Korea: “Of all the campaigns of my life, 20 major ones to be exact, the one I felt most sure of was the one I was deprived of waging. I could have won the war in Korea in a maximum of 10 days, with considerably fewer casualties than were suffered during the so‐called truce period, and it would have altered the course of history. “The enemy's air (power) would first have been taken out. I would have dropped between 30 and 50 atomic bombs on his air bases and other depots strung across the neck of Manchuria from just across the Yalu River from Antung (northwestern tip of Korea) to the neighborhood of Hunchun (just north of the northeastern tip of Korea near the border of the U.S.S.R.). “Between 30 and 50 atomic bombs would have more than done the job. Dropped under cover of darkness they would have destroyed the enemy's air force on the ground, wiped out his maintenance and his airmen. His only means of rebuilding would have been over the singletrack Trans‐Siberian Railroad. It is an excellently run railroad but it could not have handled the material needed to rebuild the enemy's air force in a sufficient space of time. “With the destruction of the enemy's air power I would then have called upon 500,000 of Chiang Kai‐shek's troops, sweetened by two United States Marine diivisions. These would have been formed Into two amphibious forces. One, totaling four‐fifths of my strength and led by one of the Marine divi’ sions, would have landed at Antung and proceeded eastward L along the road that parallels the Yahi. ... “The enemy commander would have been starved out within 10 ’ days after the landings. I suggest now he would have sued for peace immediately after learning his air had been taken out and we had spread across his supply routes. “You may ask what would have prevented the enemy's reinforcements massing and crossing the Yalu in great strength. It was my plan as our amphibious forces moved south to spread behind us—from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea—a belt of radioactive cobalt. It could have been spread from wagons, carts, trucks and planes. It is not an expensive material. It has an active life of between 60 and 120 years. For at least 60 years there could have been no land invasion of Korea from the north. The enemy could not have marched across that radiated belt." http://www.nytimes.com/1964/04/09/texts-of-accounts-by-lucas-and-considine-on-interviews-with-macarthur-in-1954.html MacArthur was a very scary person. Did you hear Trump just put YAN Military General in a Civilian post? He's in charge of prisons. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #419,437 by Ashton 8/2/17 5:00:35 PM 8/2/17 5:00:35 PM Reply	Yes heard re the new Martinet towards-->[Something.] Something psycho.

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