I don't frequent such places, but it seems like around here just plain "bar" places aren't the way to go. They either have live music (with or without the opportunity to get stand-up or sit-down food), or are also a laundromat, or are also a pool/etc. game hall, or something.

There's cut-throat competition among the live music places, and it seems like some of the local promoters run them like a cartel.

And lots and lots of restaurants serve beer, Mexican places serve margaritas, etc.

And isn't it usually the case that the only way you can make money running a bar is by having "regulars", so you're kinda promoting alcoholism? :-(

Plus, we're not really people people. ;-) And J doesn't like risk!!

Cheers,
Scott.