Not the way I read it.

Post #390,781 by a6l6e6x 6/14/14 9:41:51 AM Reply	Not the way I read it. That collage of religions and cultures existed in peace. We unleashed the Shia revenge for recent mistreatment machine. That awakened the centuries old conflicts and cranked up intolerance which feeds on itself. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #390,782 by drook 6/14/14 10:48:45 AM Reply	I may be reading to much into this line "All the groups mixed freely and fairly easily, although in the last decade of Saddam's regime that had already started to change. Radical Islam was already making inroads in Mosul in the 1990s." That sounds like things may have been quiet, but not stable. -- Drew
Post #390,788 by Ashton 6/14/14 6:02:56 PM Reply	'stable..' Surely you jest (?) (Damn, can't find my ASCII cone-balanced-on-point, with a fly about to land..) See your point, from the article, of course. What we can never know is, whether Saddam would have moved the local zeitgeist into chaos..? anywhere as rapidly as ... soon after the First Flyboy's Victory costume show, right? Those ignoramuses--the scent of raw petroleum paralyzing all the neurons--went into a wasps' nest wearing cut-off shorts drenched in honey. Expecting a Victory Parade w/speeches and Fat Oil Contracts a few months later. It's still hard to believe, 11 years out, that Condoleezza + Scary-Nukes-posters made saps of 98% of (even-) D.C. and re the plebs: hook, line and sinker. (As to Next: gotcher popcorn + hemlock ready for Da Show?)
Post #390,789 by Another Scott 6/14/14 6:46:32 PM Reply	Here ya go. "cone" was the magic word for the search. You may need to edit it a bit. http://forum.iwethey.org/forum/post/48315/ HTH! Cheers, Scott. (Who needs to remember those threads...)
Post #390,793 by Ashton 6/14/14 8:21:40 PM Reply	Thanks.. some prescience there, too! Miss Brandioch :-/ and the Doug/Dan debates--but it's a bummer to realize.. in 8/02 the DIMENSION of the fuck-ups-coming, which would begin on Day1 and never-End. We are Sooo not-Ready for self-government-under-V.C. Maybe not any 'capitalism' du jour: if there's to be a Tomorrow not fucked-by-legacy pipe-dreams. (Like say, perpetual-Windoze for all?) And still: no USSC impeachments in sight, just the nutters' aims on That Black Guy. We also need to prioritize that National To-Do list, starting with those perps; their potential toxins are as lethal as the remaining stores of bottled War-plagues-to-go. (With fries?--if it's the whole sheBang,)
Post #390,796 by drook 6/14/14 11:33:58 PM 6/14/14 11:34:18 PM Reply	Thus the thought experiment Ie: It's all coming apart anyway, what happens if we give it a shove and get on with whatever comes next? Mosul gives one real-life answer. -- Drew Edited by drook June 14, 2014, 11:34:18 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #390,804 by Ashton 6/15/14 10:22:47 PM Reply	Dilemma remains though, once all the expected Pol-bloviations peter-out. Abandoning these religio-zanies [on All sides] to their customary hellish-excesses: KIlls any chances for females amidst these Genghis-led tribes, ever to get beyond serfdom (Kinda like the effects of V-capitalism supporters of Fundie-stripe, who would love to do it here.) Doesn't matter, weighing the fact that the Shogunate forced this particular configuration of FAIL; decent folk everywhere would still feel some Dog in this Fight, no? We lack the capacity for shame/also the guts ... to see this fuck-up anywhere near 'through'. [Not that I have any 'solution' with a minuscule chance of being adopted--either.] Nobody has any ideas how you fix the jelloware of any huge religio-mob, short of being even more vicious all-at-Once? than they are, daily.

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