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New Hold on.. The Alaska View has emerged.. + Terry Gross today
http://www.dailykos....17-000-signatures

Love. It.
We. must. embrace. the. Orthogonal. becausee the regular stuff has become soggy, mean and hard-to-light
..like cigarette butts in the urinal.

Ed: PS
Heard today on Fresh Air/npr

A Russian-Crimean History Lesson
Terry Gross gets a Ukrainian, Crimean and Russian history lesson for help understanding what's going on in the region today. She talks with Kimberly Marten, professor of political science at Barnard College and deputy director of development at Columbia's Harriman Institute for Russian, Eurasian and East European studies.



Podcast: http://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/
This lady seemed to have Putin's MO to a fare-thee-well, answering Terry's (usually al punte) questions without hesitation, and with examples.
Obviously her career has been enmeshed with USSR-->present matters, in detail as would be bearable only to a genuine adept (or addict?)
Expand Edited by Ashton March 26, 2014, 03:30:27 AM EDT
New Thanks for the Fresh Air episode pointer. Bookmarked.
New much of the bush Alaska doesnt have ready access
to the internet. They are the ones who have a longer institutional memory of russia's occupation of alaska. They do carry a lot of votes. There is a reason the word for white people in yupik is gussaq (cossack) the rape and pillage back in the day was not much different than what happens in Anchorage now. Hey wait a minute.....
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
New The NPR podcast was quite good.
My only beef is that the professor low-balled the number death in the early 1930's famine in Ukraine. It was in the 7-8 million range or over twice what she said.
Alex

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

-- Isaac Asimov
New Honest disagreement or obfuscation?
What I mean is, are there multiple reasonable estimates with a wide range and she used the low one, or is she quoting official numbers that intentionally understate the reality?
--

Drew
New There are no official numbers.
Officially there was no famine. Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
Alex

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

-- Isaac Asimov
New I wouldn't claim Wikipedia as authoritative source, but ...
That confirms my suspicion that she was using the lowest "acceptable" estimate. No matter what number she had used, people on one side or the other would feel she was playing politics.

Off-topic: "Holodomor" sounds like something from Lord of the Rings.
--

Drew
New OT: "Holod" is the word for hunger.
Alex

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

-- Isaac Asimov
New "famine" тоже, нет?
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New да, тоже
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Also, and perhaps more aptly, sounds like something else that begins with Holo-
No, not hologram or holodeck.
     The Russian view. - (mmoffitt) - (15)
         Will get a-round-tuit anon; meanwhile.. - (Ashton)
         What about this? - (dmcarls) - (2)
             finally a real sanction, glad the president stepped up -NT - (boxley)
             Well, given that top-oligarchs give allegiance to no one.. - (Ashton)
         Hold on.. The Alaska View has emerged.. + Terry Gross today - (Ashton) - (10)
             Thanks for the Fresh Air episode pointer. Bookmarked. -NT - (Another Scott)
             much of the bush Alaska doesnt have ready access - (boxley)
             The NPR podcast was quite good. - (a6l6e6x) - (7)
                 Honest disagreement or obfuscation? - (drook) - (6)
                     There are no official numbers. - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                         I wouldn't claim Wikipedia as authoritative source, but ... - (drook) - (4)
                             OT: "Holod" is the word for hunger. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                 "famine" тоже, нет? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                     да, тоже -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                             Also, and perhaps more aptly, sounds like something else that begins with Holo- -NT - (CRConrad)

He makes Murphy look like a babbling optimist.
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