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New Re: Where is CDMA in China ?

When ever I go there it is GSM - Motorola sell GSM phones there as do most other suppliers. China is regarded as the fastest growing and potentially biggest world market and it is GSM not CDMA that dominates.

Cheers

Doug
New Story from TheInq on China's 2.5G system.
[link|http://www.theinquirer.net/14050208.htm|Here].

The other big Chinese firm, China Unicom, introduced CDMA (code division multiple access) services earlier this year but although China Mobile is plumping for GPRS, the technology is not quite ripe, with high speed Internet connections still something of a pipe dream.


Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: As I understand it ...

CDMA phones are incompatible with GSM & don't use removable SIMs - that is the single biggest thing against CDMA phones as this part of the world (apart from Japan) have become used to & mostly want SIM based phones.

CDMA services are vexing to transfer from phone to phone (a common practice here).


Cheers Doug
New Life isn't perfect in SIM land, either
First off, SIM cards have the predictable security problems (how come good security is always an afterthought?). One very interesting approach (to clone SIM cards) is to monitor external, physical stuff like power consumed and radiation levels. IIRC I saw that article on The Reg.

Second, it's not always possible to switch carriers, since if you buy a phone from a carrier (often cheaper since the carrier subsidizes the price) they can "lock" the phone to reject other SIM cards. To give two examples, I could not use an Italian SIM card in my German GSM phone, and a friend who took his Cingular phone to Hawaii had to call and complain a lot to get the master unlock code so he could use a non-Cingular GSM card.

It's also interesting to note that cell phone theft seems to be a big problem in Britain (or at least visible problem), based on coverage in The Reg, whereas it doesn't seem be a big problem here.

With all of that said, there's a lot be said for transparent roaming (phone picks up the strongest signal for whatever carrier) and easy change of carriers -- it's definitely a lot harder to change in the US. And, despite the problems with GSM in reality, it's much, much closer these ideals than CDMA or mixed systems (like in the Americas).

BTW Doug, have you been seeing the hype for public access 802.11? I've been seeing a lot of articles about it here; apparently some people think it may cause a lot of problems for 3-G cell phones.

Tony
New Re: I agree re 802 impacting 3G

same news here. I have a 802.11b CF card that I can run in my Sharp Zaurus (and using that clumsy jacket, in my iPAQ as well). Here there is activity setting up 802.11b in coffee shops & building foyers & all I need do is turn on, access my email account (these services are being set up my my ISP (also my employer)).

The belief is that 802.11b & the faster 802.11a (I think it is a) will negate a lot of the appeal of 3G.

But if the average consumer thinks it is fantastic to use their phone to send pics or video clips to each other (here we have the Sony/Ericsson T68i phone that has such a camera that attaches to it), then I guess there could be heavy demand vs 802.11x which may better suit business people. The T68i works on GPRS (2.5G) - I have the T68 (prior model) got it for its bluetooth & GPRS connections.

Cheers

Doug

PS at a recent demo at MS an MS guy showed us a PDA/Phone that was same size as a iPAQ - made by the same mfg that builds iPAQ for Compaq, runs Win2002. A bit heavier than an iPAQ but very sleek & slick looking. Supposed to be released at end of this month - sports a GSM module & dual band.

     Fatal flaw of Treo and Visor Phone? No analog reception? - (Another Scott) - (15)
         It's a GSM thing - (tonytib) - (13)
             Thanks for the info. Went with a used StarTAC. - (Another Scott) - (12)
                 GSM and the VisorPhone. - (static) - (11)
                     Not quite true - (tonytib) - (10)
                         Interesting perspective. - (static) - (4)
                             If you're really interested in who is using what tech & freq - (tonytib) - (3)
                                 Find some Aussies - practically everyone here uses SMS. - (Meerkat)
                                 Always try the obvious first. - (static)
                                 With Peter W. and me, you know at least four SMS users! :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                         Re: Where is CDMA in China ? - (dmarker2) - (4)
                             Story from TheInq on China's 2.5G system. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                 Re: As I understand it ... - (dmarker2) - (2)
                                     Life isn't perfect in SIM land, either - (tonytib) - (1)
                                         Re: I agree re 802 impacting 3G - (dmarker2)
         Re: Fatal flaw of Treo and Visor Phone? No analog reception - (LUTZ)

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