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Thanks for the quote that let me get to the linky.

Roger Filips seems to be an OD in Nebraska, 68739.

http://www.hartingto...right-future-here

Assuming he's 60 and she's 55 and they don't smoke, and they make $100k a year, his annual premium would be $12,534 for a silver plan, $10,388 for a bronze plan. No subsidy. (If they make $60k a year, then they'd get a $6,834 subsidy.)

He doesn't say why his BC was being cancelled. Presumably, being a health care provider, he recognizes the importance of having insurance. And normally would be happy to be able to get any insurance in that circumstance.

His snarkiness in his comment makes me suspect that there's much more to the story than he's posting (e.g. he used to have 2 offices for his practice and now seems to only have one.).

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
New And frankly ...
If the only example you can come up with of someone paying more is someone making >$100k/year then I don't see the problem.
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Drew
New And frankly, that is all...
Box needs to scream: SEE I TOLD YOU!
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New so the definition of rich is now 100k a year? good to know
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New Median family income in the US is 50.5K
Which is to say that half of all families make less than that.

If you are getting 100K/year, you're in the top fifteen percent of all incomes in the US.

So yes, actually, it is, Box.
New good to know
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New So, another question...
Please see this:

http://forum.iwethey...iwt?postid=381950
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New 60k a year $6,834 subsidy do you have a link?
seems to be a lot of anecdotal quotes that people making $8.25 do not qualify for a subsidy but a couple making $60k do?
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New That's what the KFF calculator says.
I assume them being 55 or older has something to do with it.

The only things that seem to matter are:

1) Age
2) State of residence
3) Smoker? y/n
4) Employer provided insurance available? y/n
5) Kids
6) Income
7) Is your state part of the Medicare expansion? y/n
8) What Metal do you want?

That's it.

http://kff.org/inter...bsidy-calculator/

I don't know if those numbers are accurate (I assume they are as the content of the law has been known a long time). If not, Healthcare.gov should have them (once the site is over its teething problems).

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
New huh, criteria is wierd, shows zero subsidy
60k 2 people non smoking
Results

The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that subsidies are only available for people purchasing coverage on their own in the exchange (not through an employer). Depending on your state's eligibility criteria, you or some members of your family may qualify for Medicaid.

Household income in 2014:
387% of poverty level
Unsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014:
$5,070
Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy:
9.5%
Amount you pay for the premium:
$5,070 per year
(which equals 8.45% of your household income and covers 100% of the overall premium)
You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:
$0
(which covers 0% of the overall premium)
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
New Depends on your state.
Nebraska, 68739, Cedar, 2014 dollars, 60000, No, 2, 60 NS, 55 NS, No kids.

results

The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that subsidies are only available for people purchasing coverage on their own in the exchange (not through an employer). Depending on your state's eligibility criteria, you or some members of your family may qualify for Medicaid.

Household income in 2014:387% of poverty level
Unsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014:$10,553
Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy:9.5%
Amount you pay for the premium:$5,700 per year
(which equals 9.5% of your household income and covers 54% of the overall premium) You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:$4,853
(which covers 46% of the overall premium)


The details matter, and maybe I mangled some things in trying different options. But the above is what it gave me starting fresh. The subsidy does drop for younger people.

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Depends on your state., Thats fair and balanced :-)
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New States Rights!!!11 ;-)
New I thought conservatives liked states' rights?
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Drew
New how is that state rights? its a federal subsidy
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New A subsidy that depends on the state policies.
http://www.nytimes.c...remiums.html?_r=0

Why does the subsidy vary? Because the private insurance rates vary. The actual out-of-pocket costs are surprisingly uniform.

Those are for states with exchanges. For those that don't, the feds will be running an exchange. I don't know the details there yet. (Maybe you do. ;-)

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
New nope, I work for your neighbor :-)
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New Snazzy. Dunno about the flying top border though ... ;-)
New shoot, they changed the front end again?
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     Hecate send Obama to remedial Negotiating 101 - (Another Scott) - (94)
         that is what he is doing, his golf course isn't closed -NT - (boxley) - (71)
             Obama doesn't own a golf course - (lincoln) - (70)
                 yabbut its not shut is the point -NT - (boxley) - (69)
                     How do you close a golf course on a military base? -NT - (Another Scott) - (68)
                         same way you close a marble statue - (boxley) - (67)
                             Do you think about what you're posting? - (Another Scott) - (66)
                                 Re: Do you think about what you're posting? - (boxley) - (65)
                                     Re: Do you think about what you're posting? - (Another Scott) - (7)
                                         declined to go into details - (boxley) - (6)
                                             Hassling people isn't security. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 coulda fooled me :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                             Things are different these days. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                 and that is private, not federally owned, theater -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                     The GW Parkway and MV Trail are Federal. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                         my bad, I thought you were talking about mount vernon - (boxley)
                                     Wonkette on Lincoln Memorial in 1995 - (Another Scott) - (56)
                                         so, not the first time - (boxley) - (55)
                                             Republican's have done the same shutdown extrapolation... - (folkert)
                                             You think Clinton shut down the govt voluntarily, or did... - (CRConrad) - (53)
                                                 Newt didn't like having to sit in the back. - (Another Scott) - (52)
                                                     What I don't understand is, with this so well-known... - (CRConrad) - (51)
                                                         Box likes divided government. - (Another Scott) - (50)
                                                             pretty much :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                                             That kind of nihilist should get his arse out not only... - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                 decent realestate over here - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                     If you don't have anything sensible to say... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                                         the page was in your response that I should move - (boxley)
                                                             Seems in the first shock(*), I forgot the main point: - (CRConrad) - (44)
                                                                 heh, the wonderful democratic plan called the - (boxley) - (43)
                                                                     REALLY? - (folkert) - (26)
                                                                         no, they are not getting subsidies. Read the links - (boxley) - (25)
                                                                             Go fsck yourself. - (folkert) - (3)
                                                                                 can't its not long enough - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                     Nope wrong conclusion. -NT - (folkert)
                                                                                     Then route it over your hip, not the shoulder like I do. -NT - (CRConrad)
                                                                             Which ones? - (Another Scott) - (20)
                                                                                 try a different demographic - (boxley) - (19)
                                                                                     facebook/healthcare.gov - (Another Scott) - (18)
                                                                                         And frankly ... - (drook) - (5)
                                                                                             And frankly, that is all... - (folkert)
                                                                                             so the definition of rich is now 100k a year? good to know -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                                                 Median family income in the US is 50.5K - (jake123) - (2)
                                                                                                     good to know -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                                         So, another question... - (folkert)
                                                                                         60k a year $6,834 subsidy do you have a link? - (boxley) - (11)
                                                                                             That's what the KFF calculator says. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                                                                 huh, criteria is wierd, shows zero subsidy - (boxley) - (9)
                                                                                                     Depends on your state. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                                                                                         Depends on your state., Thats fair and balanced :-) -NT - (boxley) - (7)
                                                                                                             States Rights!!!11 ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                                                             I thought conservatives liked states' rights? -NT - (drook) - (5)
                                                                                                                 how is that state rights? its a federal subsidy -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                                                                     A subsidy that depends on the state policies. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                                                                         nope, I work for your neighbor :-) -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                                                             Snazzy. Dunno about the flying top border though ... ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                                                                 shoot, they changed the front end again? -NT - (boxley)
                                                                     Basically, yes. And what's wrong with that? - (CRConrad) - (15)
                                                                         gee, I have a coporation a few shekels in the bank - (boxley) - (14)
                                                                             Obamacare is worse than Bush's Iraq War. Good to know... -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                 that was a legislative scam? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                     AUMF 2002? PL 107-243? -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                             Wow. So how is the SEC such a deterrent of corruption? -NT - (folkert)
                                                                             Oh holy stupidity, please learn to read. - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                                                                 Oh sheeit... thanks. - (folkert)
                                                                                 According to Jake I am rich, so why should I side with dems? -NT - (boxley) - (7)
                                                                                     Here's the thing Bill. - (jake123) - (2)
                                                                                         well I must be rich my cars are paid for 2 at 1985 1 at 1996 -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                             3 Cars? OMG... - (folkert)
                                                                                     Naah, you're the increasingly rare middle class. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                                         the democrats did not create this class, the unions did -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                             And as we all know, they're creatures of the Republicans...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                                                                 No, but since Clinton the Democrats have abandoned unions. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         If the Entire edjumacate-da-Box thread is really OVER [LRPD] - (Ashton) - (21)
             yup - (boxley) - (20)
                 Still the same false-equivalence bullpucky from you. - (CRConrad) - (9)
                     Re: Still the same false-equivalence bullpucky from you. - (boxley) - (8)
                         As I said: What's wrong with that? - (CRConrad) - (7)
                             They provide jobs! And Pay to much in taxes! - (folkert) - (6)
                                 They provide jobs! And Pay taxes! fify -NT - (boxley) - (5)
                                     Not really. - (folkert) - (4)
                                         "Too", w. 2 'o'. HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                             I believe that's an integrated feature of Boxlish... -NT - (hnick) - (1)
                                                 Forgot the quotes, here, take these " " -NT - (drook)
                                         Yes we do - (crazy)
                 Riddle me this, Boxman... - (Another Scott) - (9)
                     Suppose Jerry Brown had won in 1992. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         Different question. Don't distract Boxman. -NT - (Another Scott)
                     your carbon tax would be feckin ginormous - (boxley) - (6)
                         Interesting thoughts...But I agree with your conclusion. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                         Sorry, still would have sucked - (crazy) - (4)
                             My former company (temporarily) profited from that - (drook) - (3)
                                 You took your feed from the - (crazy)
                                 was this the... - (folkert) - (1)
                                     That's the one -NT - (drook)

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