Prepare to get your hate on.

Post #375,342 by pwhysall 5/22/13 8:39:47 AM Reply	Prepare to get your hate on. Well, it's new computer time. But I'm not getting another Mac. To get a 27" display with a graphics card worth two shits puts the cost over £2,000. I want that - oh, I want that. But I can't afford it right now, and I need some more graphical oomph for photo stuffs; I was processing some big stitched RAWs recently and the 512MB Radeon 4850 in the iMac was veritably juddering along scrolling these multi-gigabyte images around. So it's back to the dark PC side for me. 3.2GHz Ivy Bridge i5 with a 2GB Nvidia 660GTX and a box to put it in (and some other stuff like a motherboard, memory and a disk), along with a 27" AOC IPS monitor (although only 1080p) for £800. And it'll run Windows 8. >awaits rotten fruit< >psst, wanna buy an imac?<
Post #375,352 by Andrew Grygus 5/22/13 10:14:34 AM Reply	Ummmm . . . Windows 8?
Post #375,353 by pwhysall 5/22/13 10:19:25 AM Reply	Yes. Faster/better/stronger than 7. Start screen is a non-issue. Press start button, type words, find things. Exactly the same as 7, only less squinty. Metro is a non-issue. Don't like Metro? Don't use it. Desktop is better in all aspects. And it runs my games and apps, which is nice.
Post #375,358 by Another Scott 5/22/13 10:34:09 AM Reply	I guess that's why they're changing it with 8.1, eh? ;-)
Post #375,359 by pwhysall 5/22/13 10:47:43 AM Reply	There may be a button. You will click it. You will go to the start screen. 8.1 will not take away my start screen.
Post #375,361 by boxley 5/22/13 10:53:24 AM Reply	made that decision a while back needed a lapper when my beloved macbook got whisked away $900 new macbook $348 17inch lapper with eye candy and winders winders it is. Told myself after 3 blue screens its a linux box. 2 years later it's still winders but winders 8. I live with it Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #375,363 by folkert 5/22/13 11:44:09 AM Reply	Obligatory response Do what ever floats your boat. I'm actually having a hard time finding a decent Laptop that'll run Linux that doesn't cost £2,000 or more. Harumph. One thing I WANT it to support is something like this: http://www.newegg.co...m=N82E16824176251 Plus another USB3 external monitor or 3. -- greg@gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
Post #375,367 by pwhysall 5/22/13 12:03:57 PM 5/22/13 12:06:57 PM Reply	Laptop's off the agenda I need a massive screen for photostuffs. Whilst I'm sure you can get a 1080p laptop, I have doubts about the portability of said beast with a 27" LCD. Things have changed since I last bought a PC. HDMI for video! How weird is that?! What happened to DVI? Did no-one love it enough? ETA: Is that an IPS panel? I don't think I can live without that these days. ETA2: Am I reading that right? Nothing but analogue VGA input? Edited by pwhysall May 22, 2013, 12:06:04 PM EDT Edited by pwhysall May 22, 2013, 12:06:57 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #375,371 by Another Scott 5/22/13 12:22:14 PM Reply	It's a TN. HP seems to make a lot of weird design decisions on some of their consumer hardware. :-/ I'm running dual 21" Samsung (1900x1200) monitors off my Dell E6400 notebook (with a docking station). They're TN but good enough for the work I do. The graphics chip in the E6400 can overheat doing this, or at least it did until I stuck a CoolerMaster laptop cooler under it. Later machines may not have this issue. I'd strongly recommend a not dismissing a decent 15" laptop with a crappy screen, a docking station, then you can get the monitors you want. Speed, quiet, low power consumption, the opportunity for portability. The docking station makes it easier to add external storage, too. Have fun. Cheers, Scott. (Who got one of these a few weeks ago, but I haven't tried to use it as a monitor - http://www.amazon.co...ps&condition=used It was used but "like new" so the price was great and it still had the original packing (though in a different box). 42" might be a bit big as a computer monitor though. ;-) The picture is great in HD, OK in SD.)
Post #375,376 by pwhysall 5/22/13 1:18:25 PM Reply	Portability is not a consideration Graphics performance is. To get fast graphics in a notebook makes things go spendy.
Post #375,382 by Another Scott 5/22/13 2:01:48 PM Reply	True enough. Good luck.
Post #375,373 by folkert 5/22/13 12:37:30 PM Reply	Its a Docking Station... With only 1 USB3 cable tween it and the laptop, to take care of Power (if the laptop can do it), Network, Display, other USB (webcam), Audio, and additional USB ports. In other words, plug a single USB cable in form the monitor and its set. Alternatively you can hookup via a VGA connection. And yes its an TN, not an IPS. But of course you are looking at the screen at oblique angels... oh well. Cheers. -- greg@gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
Post #375,377 by pwhysall 5/22/13 1:19:17 PM Reply	IPS has better blacks and truer colour Not everyone cares about that, of course.
Post #375,381 by folkert 5/22/13 1:57:38 PM Reply	A lot of that comes from... the backlight though. But yes, Black is not a TN-matrix best foot forward. -- greg@gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
Post #375,378 by pwhysall 5/22/13 1:30:45 PM Reply	9 working days, gawdfuggindammit I want it NOW NEW SHINY! WANT!
Post #375,411 by pwhysall 5/23/13 8:15:56 AM Reply	Performance comparisons Between what I'm getting and what I've got: http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4850-512mb/ http://cpuboss.com/c...ntel-Core-i5-3470 >rubs hands in anticipation<
Post #375,906 by pwhysall 6/4/13 10:53:29 AM Reply	It's in QC Which means it's been tested and should ship Real Soon Now. >impatiently waits for new shiny<
Post #375,951 by pwhysall 6/5/13 8:34:38 AM Reply	It's shipped! Arrives tomorrow. >excited<
Post #375,952 by Another Scott 6/5/13 8:52:07 AM Reply	:-) Best of luck.
Post #375,953 by pwhysall 6/5/13 9:27:31 AM Reply	Cheers ears
Post #376,018 by pwhysall 6/6/13 4:13:22 PM Reply	I have it. It is fast. I can play Borderlands 2 at 1080p with everything dialled round to 11. Ditto The Witcher 2. Happy times! I haven't installed LR or PSE yet, but I have high hopes.
Post #376,023 by boxley 6/6/13 5:15:25 PM Reply	you spent how much and it only has 1080p? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #376,024 by pwhysall 6/6/13 5:28:12 PM Reply	The monitor was 200 quid. Going to decent (i.e. IPS, LED) 2560x1440 costs serious cash prize monies. Also, driving modern games at 2560x1440 would require another graphics card. Maybe later.
Post #376,034 by boxley 6/6/13 10:56:48 PM Reply	jest japing y'all :-) Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #376,036 by pwhysall 6/7/13 2:41:13 AM Reply	>internetfacepunch< But definitely need MOAR PICKSULS. OTOH, for a couple of hundred, this AOC monitor is pretty good. Unobtrusive design, decent colour, good blacks. Yeah, it's got a bit of light bleed at the edges, and yeah, it's not going to survive the nuclear holocaust, but it'll more than suffice for the time being.

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