The last holdout!!!

Post #34,869 by screamer 4/9/02 1:21:40 PM Reply	The last holdout!!! I admire your tenacity. I never surf with nuttin' but OSX or 'nux... Keeps the del c:\\. kind of stuff guessing. Ditto for email. Can't wait for .net to get rolling :-) Serious question, how long will you hold out on OS/2? I was a long time user ('til about '98) and finally started to feel like the world was passing me by. I know from your posts, over the years, that are not easily swayed by the herd mentality... but are you gonna break down and join the "brave new world"? Just a few thoughts, Screamer (aka dreck, danreck) "I'll tip my hat to the new constitution, take a bow for the new revolution, smile and grin at the change all around, pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday..." P. Townshend "Nietzsche has an S in it" Celina Jones
Post #34,870 by boxley 4/9/02 1:34:06 PM Reply	If something works, leave it alone :) TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #34,873 by Andrew Grygus 4/9/02 2:05:43 PM 4/9/02 2:37:50 PM Reply	We see no reason to move off OS/2 All the office computers run OS/2, but we do have a machine that has interchangeable hard disks that runs Windows 98 SE some of the time. It's up right now to print out an Excel contract where StarOffice OS/2 runs a signature line onto the next page. Ooops - splits it to two pages on Excel too. What we run here is: Papyrus - the most efficient word processing and light desktop publishing application available (with integrated spreadsheet and database). No incentive to change to inferior products here (also available for Windows and Atari). SuperCalc 3 spreadsheet for DOS (anything that needs presentation quality is done on Papyrus). Mozilla 0.9.9 for OS/2 (also available for Windows and others). ZTree for OS/2 - XTree Gold clone (also available for Windows) Inhouse developed accounting apps (DOS) PMMail - about the best mail reader you can get anyway (also available for Windows). Kon - context highlighting text editor for programming and Web page development. StarOffice 5.1 for OS/2 - just occasionally to read an MS Office document (also available for Windows and Linux). PMView - super program for viewing and manipulating images, including crop and rescale, color balance and palette editing (also available for Windows). Embelish - full function drawing and image edit program (also available for Windows). Home Page - Web page generator - don't actually use this because I'm a control freak and use the Kon text editor. Vigilant accounting and POS, and Appgen accounting (both run in terminal session from Linux server) for customer support. PMFax LAN - used heavily for faxing directly from all applications. Zoc - modem cummunications (also availble for Windows). FTP-It - great FTP program for uploading Web pages and downloading drivers. Adobe Acrobat - v3.0 is starting to gripe now and then, so we may have to move to the Java version. Drafix CAD for DOS. Not much need for CAD, but this does the job when I do need it. Lots of minor programs and utilities. The only functions we use Windows for is to read in camera images, run the scanner, and burn CD-ROMS. All these functions are available for OS/2 but our needs are so light we haven't bought the software. I have no interest in games, DVD or music "sharing", so none of that is a problem. I expect in a few years we may have to move at least partially to Linux desktop, but until Papyrus for Linux is released that isn't really an option - I'm just not willing to take that kind of productivity hit. Oh, yes, now that we no longer use Netscape Navigator, we don't have lockups so we no longer have to reboot once a week. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus April 9, 2002, 02:37:50 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #34,886 by bepatient 4/9/02 3:48:44 PM Reply	Why bother... when the linux desktop can be [link\|http://ais.gmd.de/~veit/os2/xf86os2.html\|moved to you]. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #34,887 by SpiceWare 4/9/02 4:06:07 PM Reply	eCS includes HobLink X11 [link\|http://www.hob.de/www_us/produkte/connect/X11-OS2.htm\|HobLink X11] lets you run an X11 session in a window on your OS/2 desktop. I've tried it out and found it to be pretty slick. Well lookie [link\|http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0402H/vnewsf3.htm\|here] in the April VOICE edition Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #34,890 by screamer 4/9/02 5:02:10 PM Reply	Thanks all for the links and rationale... I guess my next question is ... 2.1 or 3 (Warp)? I still have my 28 floppies (like all good ex-ISSC'ers should have :-) ) Mayhaps I should dual boot with Debian? I saw Be and Spiceware's links to xfree and Hoblinx... Man, talk about radical, OS/2 X86 session to my OSX box to my Solaris box! A Ballmer nightmare? I've got to try it! My Intel box currently has XP (I have to support it...) and I'm dying for an excuse to reformat it, if for no other reason, to defragment the drive. Reformat, 28 OS/2 disks, Debian, apps install would still probably take less time than to defrag an XP machine... seriously. I've never used Papyrus, but you've picqued my curiousity. As well, it's good to see the .9 build of Mozilla (what I currently am using)... I'm just surprised that there is still such a loyal group. Just a few thoughts, Screamer "I'll tip my hat to the new constitution, take a bow for the new revolution, smile and grin at the change all around, pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday..." P. Townshend "Nietzsche has an S in it" Celina Jones
Post #34,896 by Andrew Grygus 4/9/02 6:32:07 PM Reply	All v4.0 fp 12 & 14 Performance of some DOS programs goes completely to hell with Fixpack 14. Don't know why yet, but computers that run a lot of DOS stuff I'm leaving at Fixpack 12 or 13 for now. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #34,878 by SpiceWare 4/9/02 2:47:44 PM Reply	He's not the last Boxley puts it quite well :-) I've been running OS/2 since '94, it's the only OS on my main system. Things are still "happening" for OS/2, though it's probably not so noticeable to the "outside world". A few days ago Innotek released [link\|http://www.innotek.de/products/virtualpc/virtualpcgeneral.html\|Virtual PC for OS/2]. They also released [link\|http://www.innotek.de/products/flash/flashnews_e.html\|Flash 5 Player] towards the end of January. I can deal with Word documents using Lotus SmartSuite, which comes bundled with eComStation(the "new" OS/2). For internet access I'm using the OS/2 port of Mozilla. While slower than Netscape, it doesn't lock up, plus it has the really nice feature of disabling pop-up windows. Unlike Andrew, I am into games and DVDs - but I prefer to play those on my 65" HDTV rather than my 19" computer monitor. I have a Sony Playstation2 for the games(due to M$ I won't ever buy an Xbox). If you visit my [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|homepage] you can see that for the most part I take care of my retrogaming needs myself :-) I periodically use Win98 on my laptop for work support. I also use it once a week to scan my parents mail and email it to them(they now reside in Mexico, mom pays the bills online). The laptop also has OS/2 and Linux(Suse 7.3pro). For my digital photos I have a PCMCIA adapter and just read the compact flash card under OS/2. Linux I mostly use for ripping CDs to make MP3s for my [link\|http://www.linux-hacker.net/imod/imod.html\|hacked iopener], which also runs Linux(Red Hat 7.2). Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore

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