Slippery-slope doesn't apply.

Post #348,469 by Another Scott 9/30/11 8:19:20 PM Reply	Slippery-slope doesn't apply. Your objections are a variation on the slippery-slope argument. That doesn't work. See #51606 - http://iwt.mikevital....iwt?postid=51606 Cheers, Scott.
Post #348,471 by boxley 9/30/11 8:24:00 PM Reply	I saw that link, doesnt apply at all So, Bellinger says, under his view of the law, a criminal trial or even an indictment doesn't have to happen to satisfy the Constitution. Instead, a legal finding by the Justice Department and debate among lawyers from multiple government agencies might have satisfied Awlaki's rights under the Fifth Amendment. I dont see the word judge anywhere in that argument. So I dont need to see a judge because the prosecutors discussed my case in the monday morning meeting and decided I needed 20 years. Bullshit, Complete Bullshit Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #348,475 by Another Scott 9/30/11 9:28:29 PM Reply	A judge has to give permission for a policeman to shoot you? The law in Awlaki's case is debatable because of the contradictions in law in this "war" and arguments about what constitutes the "battlefield" these days. But nobody claims that suburban Georgia is the same "battlefield" as the badlands of the deserts of northern Yemen. I think many of the overarching claims under Bush about the need for extraordinary executive powers were bogus and dangerous. But it's clearly the case that, as AG said elsewhere, the state takes the life of citizens every day without indictments or judges or juries making a ruling. I don't know the details of Awlaki's case. Maybe there was a secret grand jury indictment. Or maybe there's some applicable law that wasn't followed. I dunno. But I don't see his death, or the 2002 death of Kamal Derwish, is a sign that the black helicopters are going to shoot me or my neighbors. I don't buy the slippery-slope argument here or in any other case I can think of. At some point, one has to decide whether others can be trusted. If you don't trust the reporting on Awlaki's activities, why would you trust the reporting about any indictment or trial? Of course, the government can feed lies to reporters. But in this case, it seems unlikely that Awlaki was somehow framed. Why would the courts be part of such a conspiracy? Those with sufficient interest can dig up Awlaki's web site and writings themselves - I don't have that interest. FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #348,483 by boxley 10/1/11 8:41:46 AM Reply	yes, if said policeman is to hunt me down in my environment what activities? Actively calling for "death to america" some of the president's best friends have done exactly that. Owning a website and writing op eds is a reason to get killed by the US government? Sucks to live in amerika then Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #348,484 by Another Scott 10/1/11 8:52:24 AM Reply	Let me know when they come for you. :-/
Post #348,486 by boxley 10/1/11 9:05:55 AM Reply	they just rounded up 100 of my neighbors trailer park nearby. I know many of them them. Doesnt matter to you they are only latinos. Trust the feds like you say http://www.myfoxatla...id-20110929-pm-pk Interesting, a friend of mine who watch this from the convenience store across the street said they filled 3 buses with arrestees. News said they arrested 10. Trust your government with all you heart. FUCK THAT Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #348,487 by Another Scott 10/1/11 9:19:07 AM Reply	And that has what, exactly, to do with Awlaki? ICE (nee INS) has nothing to do with DOD/CIA. You know this. Might as well claim that the Junior Rangers run Guantanamo. :-/ If you don't like your neighbors being arrested by ICE, support those who are mounting their legal defense, lobby Congress to change the law, and vote out those who wrote and support the laws in the first place. That's likely to be more effective than conflating unrelated issues in posts on the internet. My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.

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