and you indict the whole state. Jump to incorrect projections much?
One person's a moron
and you indict the whole state. Jump to incorrect projections much?
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow |
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Not really
as I fully expect the school board idiocy award to return to Florida soon...this guy just earned it for this week.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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texass ring a bell?
If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
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Amen!
edit: got to thinking that Touché should be linc's response, not mine. A double-check of the definition confirmed my usage was incorrect.
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Yeah it does
and since I live here, reading its newspapers and watching its actions on the 10 o'clock news every night, I get to see dozens, nay, hundreds of morons doing and saying incredibly stupid stuff annually. It took quite a build-up of putting up with these people before I turned to the dark side - as Spiceware can attest to since he's known me since 2001. I have not always been anti-Texas; however, too many people like Gov. Perry and the ultra-right wingnuts have pushed me into the liberal camp.
My comment about Beep's post stands on its merits - he damned a whole state for the actions of >ONE< person. "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow |
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Yep,
And i will probably do it again at some point so try not to be so sensitive:)
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Oops
First experience with an iPad. Sensitive bugger
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Dupe
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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You'll probably do it at least 3 times
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iPad error
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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First time I posted on Usenet, I sent the message 25 times.
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Ok...how about round 2 for CA
http://www.breitbart...tm_medium=twitter
The battle over the American flag has reached a middle school art class in CaliforniaÂs Santa Rita School District where a student was told not to draw Old Glory because it was Âoffensive" I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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well the flag is racist and divisive in a multicultural area
If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
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Leaving info out
It's a public school and this was an art class, not a theology class. "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow |
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Really
God Bless America is offensive?
Ok. Sure. Whatever you say. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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'The War Prayer' / Mark Twain
So then.. the tykes are to suppose that *GOD* shall naturally decimate the category, "Not-US" -- and that this is a given because.. We Be So Good / They Be So Bad ... forever etc. etc. (and various forms of rationalizations of what IS: a philosophy / theosophy matter with No Decent Solution
| thus quite unlike anything which 'Art' might connote, imply, Accept. I. See. the basis of your predictable auto-sarcasm. Logic failed as did Reason. But not dogma. Carrion, it's ripe Wanna do the "purple majesties" and the "gleaming alabaster cities undimmed by human tears" ... while inculcating your anthems into nascent tyke minds? I could almost see voting for Palin in 2012 on the grounds that this sorry ratfucking excuse for a republic, this savage, smirking, predatory empire deserves her. Bring on the Rapture, motherfuckers! -- via RC |
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I see...
...so a 12 year old draws a flag with "in God we Trust" and in our open and free society (free from religious persecution...I seem to remember that was one of the main reasons for folks to cross the pond" is now told that using the G word is offensive.
Obviously, you agree..and so the grand social experiment must have failed...because she was persecuted SPECIFICALLY for her religious belief. Yes, thats a "good thing". Of course, had she drawn that flag and those words along with a picture of her two adopted daddies...that would probably be "enlightened". Well, at least she got the colors right. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Umm . . . not exactly - in fact, not at all.
(free from religious persecution...I seem to remember that was one of the main reasons for folks to cross the pondThe reason for crossing was to enable them to be the persecuters - something they did very well indeed once established here. That was a major reason why the Constitution is so firm about matters of religious freedom. |
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Suppose its half empty/half full
were being persecuted, got here and practiced turnabout...so catholics go here, protestants go there...and we straightened out somewhat about the time of the revolution.
Regardless... You can't be punished or chastised based on religion. Seems that the base response now is that the only acceptable religion is no religion, not the freedom to believe anything you choose. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Believe ... whatever fits your fancy
Start proselytizing with an aim to force others to your fav koans: Trouble Arises.
(We Know what's Best for the zygote in your womb, cha cha cha.) (We just-Know that God Hates Fags, cha cha cha.) ( ____ ) . . . (and like that.) Pretty simple, really: ~*Golden Rule will do -- then eschew browbeating others to share your One True God? Is that so HARD to grok to fullness? * Not all that simple, either: what you might like "done to yourself" might be anathema to someone oriented Differently -- that should go without Saying, of course; surprisingly, it oft needs to be Said to the do-gooder/antagonist. I could almost see voting for Palin in 2012 on the grounds that this sorry ratfucking excuse for a republic, this savage, smirking, predatory empire deserves her. Bring on the Rapture, motherfuckers! -- via RC |
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Which side in this example
was doing the browbeating?
I think you have the situation perfectly reversed in your head. But since the authority in this case is telling the girl that God is offensive...well thats the right kind of freedom for you. (God or flag, nothing in story to determine which is worse to her) I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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you are confused in CA learning islam in school
is not only acceptable but required, the kid was being admonished for getting an american flag anywhere near it
If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
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that explains it then...
she should have written Allah Akbar on the flag so as to not be offensive :)
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Re: Really
I never said it; I'm assuming that those words are what the teacher focused on.
Do you believe that the teacher thought that the American flag was offensive, or do you believe that the teacher thought that the words "God Bless America" were offensive? "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow |
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doesn't really matter to me
either one is a mistake on the teachers part.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Ebert's take.
http://rogerebert.su...OPINION/100509974
Funny how Breitbart doesn't mention that it apparently happened on May 5. [edit:] (via Pharyngula - http://scienceblogs....han_a_bigot_i.php ) Cheers, Scott. |
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First story was posted then
thought that was obvious.
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Paul Harvey time
The rest of the story....
ÂIf something wrong was done to the student, weÂll get to the bottom of that, Brusa said. ÂBut it may have been they were working on the Yellow Ribbon project, which sends care packages to military in war zones. One of the requirements is that there is no writing on the flags. If thatÂs the case, then thereÂs been a huge misunderstanding here and a lot of needless turmoil and grief I had a feeling there was more to this. Source http://www.thecalifo...p+may+be+baseless I think the single most compelling piece of evidence for global warming is that Fox News viewers think it's a hoax.
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Oh
So I'll be expecting Fox News and everyone who forwarded irate emails about this to follow up and tell everyone they got it wrong.
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not really
you dont haul off and fuck over a little kid because she didnt understand the instructions
where a student was told not to draw Old Glory because it was Âoffensive, I coach 12-13 yo girls, I examine what I say BEFORE I belch it out because they are VERY sensitive to nuance. If a teacher doesnt understand that she/he is in the wrong profession. thanx, bill If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
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um..in a word...(heh)...Amen.
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I'm glad the bay area crowd is so enlightened
- (beepster)
- (40)
- May 6, 2010, 11:23:08 AM EDT
One person's a moron
- (lincoln)
- (31)
- May 6, 2010, 01:29:28 PM EDT
Not really
- (beepster)
- May 6, 2010, 01:57:24 PM EDT
texass ring a bell?
-NT
- (boxley)
- (9)
- May 6, 2010, 02:25:38 PM EDT
Amen!
- (SpiceWare)
- (1)
- May 6, 2010, 03:02:18 PM EDT
dupe - thought I hit edit.
-NT
- (SpiceWare)
- May 6, 2010, 03:03:03 PM EDT
Yeah it does
- (lincoln)
- (6)
- May 7, 2010, 04:08:09 PM EDT
Yep,
- (beepster)
- May 7, 2010, 06:09:03 PM EDT
Oops
- (beepster)
- May 7, 2010, 06:11:33 PM EDT
Dupe
-NT
- (beepster)
- (3)
- May 7, 2010, 06:10:23 PM EDT
You'll probably do it at least 3 times
-NT
- (crazy)
- (2)
- May 7, 2010, 06:10:23 PM EDT
iPad error
-NT
- (beepster)
- (1)
- May 7, 2010, 06:12:18 PM EDT
First time I posted on Usenet, I sent the message 25 times.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- May 7, 2010, 06:21:21 PM EDT
Ok...how about round 2 for CA
- (beepster)
- (19)
- May 10, 2010, 04:46:12 PM EDT
well the flag is racist and divisive in a multicultural area
-NT
- (boxley)
- May 10, 2010, 06:16:56 PM EDT
Leaving info out
- (lincoln)
- (11)
- May 11, 2010, 02:07:35 PM EDT
Really
- (beepster)
- (10)
- May 11, 2010, 02:30:38 PM EDT
'The War Prayer' / Mark Twain
- (Ashton)
- (7)
- May 11, 2010, 04:25:17 PM EDT
I see...
- (beepster)
- (6)
- May 11, 2010, 04:33:23 PM EDT
Umm . . . not exactly - in fact, not at all.
- (Andrew Grygus)
- (5)
- May 11, 2010, 05:55:03 PM EDT
Suppose its half empty/half full
- (beepster)
- (4)
- May 11, 2010, 10:12:35 PM EDT
Believe ... whatever fits your fancy
- (Ashton)
- (3)
- May 12, 2010, 03:04:03 AM EDT
Which side in this example
- (beepster)
- (2)
- May 12, 2010, 07:04:18 AM EDT
you are confused in CA learning islam in school
- (boxley)
- (1)
- May 12, 2010, 08:29:47 AM EDT
that explains it then...
- (beepster)
- May 12, 2010, 08:37:18 AM EDT
Re: Really
- (lincoln)
- (1)
- May 12, 2010, 03:52:40 PM EDT
doesn't really matter to me
- (beepster)
- May 12, 2010, 04:21:02 PM EDT
Ebert's take.
- (Another Scott)
- (1)
- May 11, 2010, 10:12:14 PM EDT
First story was posted then
- (beepster)
- May 11, 2010, 10:15:02 PM EDT
Paul Harvey time
- (Silverlock)
- (3)
- May 12, 2010, 09:10:50 AM EDT
Oh
- (drook)
- May 12, 2010, 09:16:44 AM EDT
not really
- (boxley)
- (1)
- May 12, 2010, 09:23:59 AM EDT
um..in a word...(heh)...Amen.
-NT
- (beepster)
- May 12, 2010, 09:34:20 AM EDT
a note from someone who lives in the area
- (boxley)
- (7)
- May 12, 2010, 09:47:38 AM EDT
so this isn't newsworthy
- (beepster)
- (6)
- May 12, 2010, 09:56:46 AM EDT
Rich is just one element
- (mhuber)
- (5)
- May 12, 2010, 10:45:37 AM EDT
So now a flag shirt
- (beepster)
- (4)
- May 12, 2010, 11:08:28 AM EDT
More like Coke shirt on Pepsi day
- (mhuber)
- (1)
- May 12, 2010, 11:47:16 AM EDT
Pretty much agree, and started that way
- (beepster)
- May 12, 2010, 12:35:42 PM EDT
Re: So now a flag shirt... how quickly we forget
- (boxley)
- May 12, 2010, 12:13:03 PM EDT
Context
- (drook)
- May 12, 2010, 12:23:01 PM EDT
