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New Can't do that
I thot you could only bring criminal charges against *individuals*, not organizations. IOW, you can put managers in jail, etc., but not an entire company.

I have never heard of a company being convicted of criminal charges. Any prior cases?

A.A. will probably file bankruptcy before such a trial finished anyhow.

The practical thing to do would be to fine them enuf to really hurt, but not kill them. Outright killing a company is not very economical and very disruptive to regular employees.

I wonder what the courts say about peons who follow orders to do bad things? I have been in such sticky situations (in smaller companies), and it aint fun at all.
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New INAL, but try pollution violations, anti-trust, frauds.
Alex

"Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -- Neils Bohr (1885-1962)
New Sure you can
When you create a coporation, you are creating a separate legal entity. That's one of the main reasons for incorporating a business in the first place.

Imagine you want to set up your own consultancy, Tablizer, Inc. You go get a lawyer (or however you want to do it), fill out all the paperwork, and you create your legally-registered corporation in whichever district you choose. You give the Tablizer, Inc company $50,000. You are now the sole proprietor of Tablizer, Inc. TI goes out and buys computers, does advertising, whatever. You get a client. You're going to do some work for them creating widgets to interface with their foobars. You do your work, they pay Tablizer, Inc $250,000. Except that your widgets completely break their foobars, and they want to get their money back. You say, "But I did the work, and I delivered my widgets to you. You can't have it."

So they sue you. But they can't sue *YOU*. They can only sue Tablizer, Inc. And through the company, your liability is limited by the assets of the company (say you spent all the original $50k and half of the money they paid you. All you've left now is $125k. Plus computers and other various and sundries worth $25k.) Insurance notwithstanding, the most they can sue you for is $150k. They can't go after your house. They can't take your car away. They can't get at your wife's personal investments.

That is one reason why corporations are created. Limitation of liability.

So, yes. Companies can be sued. I don't know that, in this case, "Arthur Andersen, Inc" can be sent to jail. But fines are highly likely.
-YendorMike

Real programmers use "vi a.out".
New Re: You are now the sole proprietor of Tablizer, Inc
Nope, bad word choice. Sole proprietor is different form of business (of corporation, partnership or sole proprietorship) and is fully liable. You mean sole stochholder.
Alex

"Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -- Neils Bohr (1885-1962)
New Oops
Sorry. Been 8 years since I've taken any form of class anywhere close to relating to that.

Otherwise, it was close. I hope. :)

IANAL, etc.
-YendorMike

Real programmers use "vi a.out".
New still civil
(* They can only sue Tablizer, Inc. And through the company, your liability is limited by the assets of the company *)

But you are talking about a *civil* suit, not a criminal suit.

I don't think there has *ever* been a (successful?) criminal suit against a company. Do you know of any instances?
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     DOJ going for criminal charges against Arthur Andersen - (marlowe) - (13)
         complete agreement - (boxley)
         Only surprised in one thing - (JayMehaffey) - (2)
             Easier to prove Obs. of Just. than viol..s of securities law -NT - (Another Scott)
             Re: Why start with Andersen? - (Silverlock)
         Shredding, be interesting - (wharris2)
         Can't do that - (tablizer) - (5)
             INAL, but try pollution violations, anti-trust, frauds. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             Sure you can - (Yendor) - (3)
                 Re: You are now the sole proprietor of Tablizer, Inc - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                     Oops - (Yendor)
                 still civil - (tablizer)
         Arthur Andersen is dead anyway, at least the accounting side - (mhuber) - (1)
             Full agreement. And I vote on those proxies. -NT - (a6l6e6x)

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