But it doesn't square with the chatter, is all...

Post #323,298 by beepster 3/23/10 8:56:12 AM Reply	But it doesn't square with the chatter, is all... for example...even after the vote... Nancy says... "Well, you know, some people will do anything for the insurance companies," Pelosi said of Boehner in an echo of the bitter fight over the health care bill. If they are the root of all evil, and you have an alternative set of systems (medicare, caid, the "public option")...why still vilify them? Fact of the matter is, most Americans have insurance and most are happy with it. Why not simply say "insurance companies provide a valuable service, BUT there are some things they do that need to be changed and better regulated". Politically, this would be a better message...because everyone would agree. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #323,301 by boxley 3/23/10 9:04:28 AM Reply	but it wouldnt give people like rand ook time gotta make it look like a battle to keep the money rolling in. If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #323,302 by beepster 3/23/10 9:07:40 AM Reply	Oh, sorry wasn't I "writhey" enough there? I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #323,315 by drook 3/23/10 11:01:42 AM Reply	The only people happy with their medical coverage ... ... are the ones who have never had to use it. Yes, hyperbole. But pretty damn close. -- Drew
Post #323,467 by mhuber 3/25/10 7:07:42 PM Reply	"because everyone would agree" Ignores the political facts on the ground. The declared and demonstrated Republican strategy is to reject everything. In terms of bipartisanship, it really doesn't matter what the Democrats proposed. The Republican position is to make stuff up and scream SOCIALIST. No matter what. That position cost them a voice at the table and the ability to defend what they used to claim were their values. I don't think that matters to the GOP leadership anymore, it would appear that campaign contributions and claiming the win are all that matter anymore. Representing constituents and ideas is just not that important. --------------------------------------- Why, yes, I did give up something for lent. I gave up making sense.
Post #323,481 by beepster 3/25/10 10:54:20 PM Reply	doesn't matter the people the vote is the everyone referred to. They alienated the masses...November will see republican gains...not because they're doing anything necessarily right...just the democrats are playing into it. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #323,485 by mhuber 3/26/10 1:58:09 AM Reply	Still doesn't matter What percentage of those voters will be voting based on the actual content of the bill, and what percentage will be voting based on entirely fictional material that the Republican party made up? Obama could have gone into a room with the Republicans, said "I give up, you write it yourselves" and not a single Republican would have voted for the result. And they would be, with a single voice, denouncing it as a socialist takeover. There will be a midterm move to the Republican side. How much of that will be HCR and how much will be the normal midterm slide away from the President will be an interesting question for some of us, for others just evidence that Obama is one each of every bad thing there ever was, and two of some. --------------------------------------- Why, yes, I did give up something for lent. I gave up making sense.

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