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New I disagree
When you're about to hit something, "jam down hard on the brakes" is about as close to "instinctive" as anything can be in a learned activity like driving. That's why they spent all those years teaching "pump the brakes on ice". (Now of course wrong when it comes to anti-lock.)

If I hit the brakes and it didn't slow down, I'd press harder until either the pedal or my seat-back broke loose. (I bent a seat that way once.) I really didn't think I was that much in the minority, but all these people talking about their UA experiences, I don't hear them saying, "I stood on the brakes as hard as I could." I hear, "I tried shutting it off, I tried downshifting, everything I could think of." Which seems not to include using the damn brakes.

Okay, one did say she engaged the emergency brake. Do they still call it that? It's been the "parking brake" on every car I can remember.
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Drew
New Watch the video.
She says she had both feet on the brake.

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
New I'd like to see that tested
On a test track, lock the throttle WFO. After it tops 100mph stand on the brakes and see which pedal wins. Unless you're in a top fuel car, I'm pretty sure the brakes will have it.

Unless, as Ashton was suggesting, there's not a physical connection between the brake pedal and the disks. Does anyone know if the brakes are "fly-by-wire" too?
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Drew
New heard some chatter on npr about this
there is electrical interconnects between throttle brakes to where a chip determines which one is accessed when. What was explained that although stomping the brake seemed like there was no brake it could have a 5 second delay. So stomp on the brakes, no reaction then go onto trying other things MAY have been what has happened
If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
     Bad solder tech may be implicated in Toyota acceleration. - (Another Scott) - (17)
         Wow! good find - (Ashton)
         Addendum from TTAC on Black Boxes - (Ashton) - (13)
             Ball of wax not that new anymore - (scoenye) - (10)
                 Are all these people really that stupid? - (drook) - (8)
                     she braked and put the car in neutral still accelerated - (boxley)
                     I would call it "uneducated" - (scoenye) - (5)
                         pump if you start to skid doesnt do a thing for abs brakes -NT - (boxley)
                         I disagree - (drook) - (3)
                             Watch the video. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                 I'd like to see that tested - (drook) - (1)
                                     heard some chatter on npr about this - (boxley)
                     Partial video, transcript. - (Another Scott)
                 Problem right here! - (mhuber)
             one more reason I will be keeping the 1985 as a daily driver -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                 I'm with you, there. - (static)
         TTAC writer has his own UA experience. - (Another Scott)
         For more than most want to know.. - (Ashton)

Erm, jb......that already IS a Lerpadism.
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