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New Re: do these words count :)
Sure they count. The US gets to pay over and over again for supporting Israel.

Yes, I do know there are decent Israelis. And, I hope they'll get a government to match. Adolf sHitler, erm Ariel Sharon has set back peace prospects at least a decade. I hope his government crumbles soon.
Alex

"Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -- Neils Bohr (1885-1962)
New Actually his actions though dumb might precipitate peace
and for all the wrong reasons. Saw an interview with several people from both sides that claim exhaustion from the escalation will force both sides to the table.
thanx,
bill
There is no difference between a "settler," "soldier," "secular," or "Chassidic Jew." The target is the JEW.
\ufffd Harvey Tannenbaum
New I would be surprised.
I think he is a shrewd bastard working for a Greater Israel as a legacy. He works at polarizing Israelis and firing up the Palestinian Arabs so he can then brutalize the Arabs and either kill them off or make them leave. He does not mind losing some Israeli lives to prove peace with the Arabs is not possible (until Greater Israel is in place). He has pushed hard with the "settlements". I'm sure you've heard the strategy of "making facts on the ground".

[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/17/weekinreview/17BENN.html|Interesting NY Times article on Sharon.]

The current talk of a cease fire is just a ruse. One way or another, Sharon will make sure it will not work. He'll get help from the Young Turks on the Arab side. Arafat is just a joke at his point and Sharon made him so.
Alex

"Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -- Neils Bohr (1885-1962)
New This greater Israel thingy you are adamnant upon
Not many Jews I know of think all of ancient Israeli is nescessary, for every american yutz who demands such a thing (seeing as his ass aint getting shot at) to the orthodox who think Israel shouldnt exist and would be happy to give it all to the arabs there is a lot of leeway. If it was possible and the situation was different, maybe. At this point in time accept what the arabs are slowly realizing, lebensroom is what you can hold right now.
thanx,
bill
The Bill of Rights, Void where ptohibited.
New This greater Israel thingy you are adamnant upon
Not many Jews I know of think all of ancient Israeli is nescessary, for every american yutz who demands such a thing (seeing as his ass aint getting shot at) to the orthodox who think Israel shouldnt exist and would be happy to give it all to the arabs there is a lot of leeway. If it was possible and the situation was different, maybe. At this point in time accept what the arabs are slowly realizing, lebensroom is what you can hold right now.
thanx,
bill
The Bill of Rights, Void where ptohibited.
     Why I am not surprised - (boxley) - (58)
         Your Indian analogy fails. - (a6l6e6x) - (23)
             Palestinian refugee camps - (bluke) - (22)
                 Devil's Advocate - (pwhysall) - (19)
                     evilX4 ]:-> - (boxley) - (6)
                         Er. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                             must be the unique equipment? - (boxley) - (4)
                                 Say there Box, - (Ashton) - (3)
                                     torah =(like) 1st 5 books of the bible - (boxley) - (2)
                                         Re: torah =(like) 1st 5 books of the bible - (bluke) - (1)
                                             Sorry bluke my engrish translation - (boxley)
                     Come on - (bluke) - (11)
                         Re: Come on - (pwhysall) - (10)
                             So (sotto voiced) british support for the RUC is different? -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                 Eh? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                     troll bait enclosed - (boxley)
                                 Eh? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                     and the EU human rights court said - (boxley)
                             Israeli arms industry - (bluke)
                             You tell me how many links - (bluke)
                             And just what great weapons does the UK make? - (bluke) - (2)
                                 uk? - (boxley)
                                 Bangers and mash - (Silverlock)
                 Simple, refuges want to go *home*. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                     And the other tens of millions of refuges didn't? - (bluke)
         Faisal Husseini: The Oslo Accords Were a Trojan Horse - (bluke) - (32)
             You have no credibility, bluke. - (a6l6e6x) - (31)
                 As usual when you have no answer ... - (bluke) - (30)
                     Re: As usual when you have no answer ... - (a6l6e6x) - (29)
                         Er, ahem - (wharris2)
                         Just words???? - (bluke) - (11)
                             Re: Just words???? - (a6l6e6x) - (10)
                                 do these words count :) - (boxley) - (9)
                                     How about these words from our "moderate" Saudi friends? - (bluke) - (3)
                                         whats worse the fuckwit is a professor at the University -NT - (boxley)
                                         You mean it's not true? :) - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                             especially since they are both kosher (no blood allowed) -NT - (boxley)
                                     Re: do these words count :) - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                                         Actually his actions though dumb might precipitate peace - (boxley) - (3)
                                             I would be surprised. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                                 This greater Israel thingy you are adamnant upon - (boxley)
                                                 This greater Israel thingy you are adamnant upon - (boxley)
                         For the hundreth time... - (bluke) - (15)
                             It is Arab land because... - (a6l6e6x) - (14)
                                 Wrong again - (bluke) - (13)
                                     I stand corrected. The UN did not establish the boundary. - (a6l6e6x) - (12)
                                         Still wrong - (bluke) - (11)
                                             Wonderful. - (a6l6e6x) - (10)
                                                 UN Resolutions - (bluke) - (2)
                                                     Agreed then, *ALL* UN Resolutions mean nothing. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                                         In truth, yes - (bluke)
                                                 Wrong again, not just Eugene Rostow - (bluke) - (6)
                                                     Not Wrong, just not self-serving. - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                                                         Still wrong as usual - (bluke)
                                                         Are all these people Jewish too? - (bluke) - (3)
                                                             What none of these quotes say... - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                                                 whats a mere 35 vs 2000 :) - (boxley)
                                                                 What they do say clearly - (bluke)
         cartoon of the day - (boxley)

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